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RedditA few weeks ago, I posted on New York Times reporter David Barstow's front-page story exposing the Pentagon's propaganda machine.
Through rigorous documentation, Barstow revealed the incestuous relationship between the government, the networks and so-called "independent" military analysts, who echoed Pentagon talking points in order to gain access and, possibly, advantage for defense contractors to which they were tied. (The Times screwed up royally in the run-up to the war, think Judith Miller,but they got this one right. Read ombudsman Clark Hoyt's story on the Times two-year battle with the Pentagon to obtain this information.)
According to the Times, the Pentagon recruited more than 75 retired military officers as its "message force multipliers" or "surrogates," and they in turn passed along Bush Administration "themes and messages" to Americans in the "form of their own opinions." Participants were not to disclose their contacts with the Pentagon, and networks rarely disclosed their "analysts'" ties to defense contractors with vested interests in the war policies under discussion.
As I wrote, this is the essence of a new military-media-industrial complex that cuts right to the heart of what Americans can expect from our mass media, our government, and what passes for "news" on the most important political issues of our time. The reaction of the mainstream media only serves to drive this point home even further, as Salon's Glenn Greenwald noted, "But what is most extraordinary about all of this is that huge numbers of Americans who were subjected to this propaganda by their own Government still don't know that they were, because the television networks which broadcast it to them refuse to tell them about it, opting instead to suppress the story and stonewall any efforts to find out what happened."
Politico reported that in the week after the Times story ran, within the mainstream media only PBS's NewsHour ran stories – two of them – examining the issues raised. The Nation featured the scandal in its lead editorial and will stay on this until it gets the attention it needs and deserves.
Four days after the Times broke the story, Representative Rosa DeLauro wrote a letter to NBC News, ABC News, CBS News, FOX News, and CNN News "to get specifics about each outlet's policies surrounding the hiring and vetting of military analysts reporting on the Iraq War." The arrogance of Fox is on full frontal display -- only ABC, CNN and CBS responded to the Congresswoman. DeLauro and Representative John Dingell have now requested a Federal Communications Commission investigation into the propaganda program and the question of whether the networks or analysts broke any federal laws.
Senator John Kerry has also called for a Government Accountability Office investigation, asking people to sign onto his letter to the agency: "…when there's no coverage of this issue on television, it's hard to build the drumbeat you need sometimes to get results. We need to demonstrate that Americans care about the credibility of their government and the transparency of their media."
While the blogosphere and The Nation have kept this story alive, it's one that people need to see covered on the networks and cable news. The Pentagon has now suspended the propaganda program, but we still need a full investigation by relevant Congressional Committees to hold those who lied us into this disastrous war to account --and to ensure this never happens again.
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Well, its just like Hitler (and GWB) said .. if you repeat the propaganda often enough, it becomes the truth.
Posted by leftofcenter at 05/15/2008 @ 9:09pm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3096434/
go to hardball and hit the thing that says
"a question of appeasement"
oh man! what a slapdown!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008
WATCH THIS! ITS MORE EXCRUCIATING AND HILARIOUS EVRY TIME I WATCH IT!!!!!
SERIOUSLY - E-MAIL THIS CLIP! PRICELESS!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 | ignore this person
sorry - but this was priceless!!!!
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sorry about multiple cross postings...BUT THIS IS PRICEESS! YOU HAVE TO SEE IT! WOW! PROOF POSITIVE OF THE IGNORANT STUPIDITY OF THE RIGHT! IS THIS ALL THEY GOT???
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 9:32pm
HA HA HA - the kevin james (radio announcer) entry in wikipedia has ALREADY been updated to include the incident!!!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_James_%28broadcaster%29
but please for your own entertainment check it out on the above website!!! lmao!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 9:36pm
"DeLauro and Representative John Conyers have now requested a Federal Communications Commission investigation into the propaganda program and the question of whether the networks or analysts broke any federal laws."
Broke any laws?!?! Unless there's a money connection somewhere, anyone can get on the MSM networks and spin until they're dizzy. And I'll bet the FCC will tell Conyors when you have some evidence to the contrary let us know, but in the mean time, those "analysts" are free to speak even if the Nation is troubled by it.
Posted by ACook at 05/15/2008 @ 9:41pm
Ibble you need a life man....yes the guy didnt know the historical fact....but screwball look just as bad pressing the point....a bug fucking yawn if you ask me....
What else you got?
Posted by libzsuck at 05/15/2008 |
ohhh - it speaks back in non chumtalk!
ohhh libz, its all falling apart, pal. reminds me of the final scene of the lord of the rings where the big eye finally realizes its all over and jerks wildly from side to side in horror as it falls to the earth...
and rove is going to get arrested within a week if he does not come answer questions in front of congress...
oh man, its all coming apart you CRYPTO-FASCIST EVIL ENABLING TREASONOUS TRAITOR!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 9:43pm
"While the blogosphere and The Nation have kept this story alive, it's one that people need to see covered on the networks and cable news."
If it was going to be...it would be by now.
Sorry, swept away like everything else ...while everybody waits for November to roll around.
Bet on it.
Posted by Mask at 05/15/2008 @ 9:54pm
anyone notice it looks like he is wearing a squirrel on his head????
Posted by libzsuck at 05/15/2008 | ignore this person
conyers is getting happily pissed about this refusal of blob head rove to obey the law of the land and come testify.
rove keeps trying to pull that "i'll talk but not under oath and only if you promis to not reperat what i said" bullshit.
hey blob head! you can't hide behind "national security" on this. hee hee ha ha!
if rove wants to engage in pillow talk he should call his boy toy...congress wants it under oath, taped, and transcribed!
oh my...getting better every day!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 9:59pm
siegalman has nothing to do with "national security", blob head rove!!!
yer gonna squeeeeeel little piggy!!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 10:02pm
"conyers is getting happily pissed about this refusal of blob head rove to obey the law of the land and come testify."
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008
Well, why should he? Rove left the WH months ago. Heck, I've seen prunes with more air in them than Conyers.
Posted by ACook at 05/15/2008 @ 10:09pm
Posted by ACook at 05/15/2008 | ignore this person
every time conyers tried to DO SOMETHING, to get those criminals, our leaders, to talk, they hid behind "national security" and avoided self incrimination. this siegalman thing has NOTHING TO DO WITH NATIONAL SECURITY...all blob head can do is plead the 5th...
and considering the evil and suffering that bastard has been the architect and enabler of...
SQUEEL PIGGY, SQUEEL!!!!
because of the actions of blob head, an apparantly decent man spend what? a year in prison???
SQUEEL PIGGY, SQUEEL!!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 10:15pm
"message force multipliers"
eek!
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 @ 10:16pm
Well, why should he? Rove left the WH months ago.
Posted by ACook
hmmmmm?
i wonder why.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 @ 10:26pm
It is difficult... yet absolutely necessary... to present this issue to the American people in a clear non-combative format. If it is given the usual 'heads are gonna roll' approach that inflames reciprocity seeking turnovers in the lower ranks of corporate media... the 'dangerous' collusion of Presidential administration and pervasive MSM influence may get past us all but unnoticed.
That these manipulative and authoritarian behaviors arise in our largely corporate Republic, especially in times of war, stress and fear, should surprise no one.
But we were 'taken in', not by our belief in America... but by our MSM's lack of belief in us. If the media at large (and to some degree the various administrations over the last fifty years we have elected to represent us) could elevate it's appraisal of the public, the 'public trust' would in turn become a 'saving grace' rather than an impediment. It's the core value particular to democracy that requests study and input from each and every US citizen.
Today, the MSM rarely upholds it's end of the Democratic process... and people have gotten used to it. Guiding public opinion has taken the place of informing the public discourse.
Where, in the shadowy matrix of 'trickle down' decision making, do the American people belong? Where is the engine that propels the intelligent discourse of our incomparable nation?
...And why is this vicariousness we call 'technology' so ill used... so much of the time?
Posted by ttr at 05/15/2008 @ 10:28pm
hey ibblelelbblblelble:
check out this little photo:
http://tinyurl.com/59cxmo
enjoy!
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 @ 10:33pm
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 | ignore this person
LOL - blob head going DOWN!!!! SQUEEEEELL PIGGY!!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 10:34pm
...And why is this vicariousness we call 'technology' so ill used... so much of the time?
Posted by ttr
$$$$$$$
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 @ 10:35pm
US army's desert filling stations add fuel to fire
Oliver Burkeman in Washington
The Guardian, Saturday March 29 2003 Article history
In a war where public perceptions are arguably as important as the military strategy, the US army appears to have handed a huge public relations victory to those who believe the conflict in Iraq is all about oil. The 101st Airborne Division has chosen to name two of its main outposts in the desert Forward Operating Base Exxon and Forward Operating Base Shell.
Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:54:23 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 @ 10:48pm
Operating Base Shell.
Thursday, May 15, 2008 10:54:23 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 |
thats funny on so many levels. the 101st getting a tad mutinous it seems...
no Forward Operating Base Citgo i bet...we haven't "liberated" venezuela i guess!!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 10:51pm
check the photo, ibbbbbbbbbl
http://tinyurl.com/59cxmo
won't disappoint.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008 @ 11:12pm
won't disappoint.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/15/2008
godd one. see the kevin james interview? hee hee hee.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 11:15pm
And Conyers? Phffft.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Posted by JOMAMMA at 05/15/2008 | i
u see the interview? i put directions up to it. its PAINFUL to watch even for me. what an ignorant fool!
thank god our uhmurukin fascists are so bleedin' ignorant...
rove? JO...this is a criminal investigation with no national security smoke and mirrors bullshit to hide behind...he CANNOT refuse to talk unless he's ready to go to jail or take the 5th - can you do that in front of congress, even?
maybe he'll get all forgetty...
oh, my good cryptofascist enabler friend, once the repugnants are out of office with all their spoils system kommisars, we might indeed see some prosecutions and worse...
who knows? as the old chinese curse says, may you live in interesting times...
gets more interesting all the time...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008 @ 11:53pm
It is illegal for the US government to use paid propaganda on it's citizens. The ChimpCo admin has been slapped for it before.
The fact that the fear the guvt, don't fall for propaganda crowd is:
a: defending the probably illegal use of tax dollars to spread propaganda
b: fell for every ""expert"
is just too sad for words.
Taken in by Curveball, Chalibi, Feith, forged documents, then by the talking points of the admin.
"listen to the generals" they said.
"they are independent experts" they said
"Rumsfeld is doing a great job" they said
"Be afraid" they said.
Maybe, just maybe, the wars will be over in four years. A decade to establish a corrupt, strongarm Islamic governmant.
Doin' a great job neo-cons. you patriots you.
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 12:07am
librool media supplying propaganda gratis
[MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?]
[MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically [...], the president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics.]
[BLITZER: There was a riskier landing that the president wanted to make. The Secret Service, though, just wouldn't let the commander in chief ride in an F/A-18 strike fighter. But CNN's Kyra Phillips will be doing just that in a matter of only a few minutes. She's in the cockpit of this F/A-18 Hornet. Right now, Navy jets like this one, of course, helped win the war in Iraq. Now, they're headed home.]
This, of course, was so much bullshit:
[GOLER: Brit, the president says he flew the plane about a third of the way from North Island Naval Air Station to the carrier Lincoln. He says the pilot asked him if he wanted to do some maneuvers, but he flew it mostly in a straight line]
"Iraq Is All but Won; Now What?" (Los Angeles Times headline, 4/10/03)
"Tommy Franks and the coalition forces have demonstrated the old axiom that boldness on the battlefield produces swift and relatively bloodless victory. The three-week swing through Iraq has utterly shattered skeptics' complaints." (Fox News Channel's Tony Snow, 4/13/03)
"We had controversial wars that divided the country. This war united the country and brought the military back." (Newsweek's Howard Fineman--MSNBC, 5/7/03)
"We're all neo-cons now." (MSNBC's Chris Matthews, 4/9/03)
"What's he going to talk about a year from now, the fact that the war went too well and it's over? I mean, don't these things sort of lose their--Isn't there a fresh date on some of these debate points?" (MSNBC's Chris Matthews, speaking about Howard Dean--4/9/03)
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 12:18am
Hardball appearance On May 15, 2008, James appeared on Hardball with Chris Matthews, debating with Mark Green of Air America Radio to discuss remarks made by George W. Bush's speech to the Israeli Knesset in which the president drew a comparison between Neville Chamberlain's appeasement of Hitler in World War II with Barack Obama's expressed willingness to meet with leaders of U.S. adversaries.
After James vigorously supported Bush's comparison, Chris Matthews asked James for a "history check", asking James "What exactly did Chamberlain do wrong?" James was unable to demonstrate any knowledge of the period and Matthews, stunned, repeated the question numerous times. He then accused James of being a "blank slate" who didn't know anything about history. He also likened James to White House spokesman Dana Perino, who in an appearance on NPR's radio program Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me admitted she had had no idea what the Cuban Missile Crisis was.[3][4]
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ya know...i think there is a certain segment of stupid, butt ignorant, rightwingers who band together. the ones with lots of inherited money hire some smart folks to keep their money and do the hard work, but regardless of educational attainment (and this is quite an indictment of the quality of higher education in this country, by the way) they are suprisingly ignorant and stupid.
perino did not even know what the cuban missile crisis ws? wow...
well, CRABS, looks like msnbc and matthews at least can sense the mood of the american people...the money is in telling the truth after all - especially when the truth involves the soul satisfying image of neocons being prosecuted as the criminals they are...
which is what the american people want!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/16/2008 @ 12:31am
In a democracy there is civil control of the military. The Pentagon can use propaganda against foreign populations. The military can engage public relations operatives to protect and promote it's own image and reputation. But, military use of propagandists (message force multipliers) to promote political objectives has no place in a democracy.
Also, I saw that Bush apologist, K. James, make a fool of himself on Hardball. I've got to give him credit though, He kept up that self-righteous indignation act 'til the bitter end.
Posted by koroviev at 05/16/2008 @ 12:34am
High times at Mr. Peters.
Posted by winyahn at 05/16/2008 @ 12:43am
Woops-- High crimes and misdemeanors.
Posted by winyahn at 05/16/2008 @ 12:44am
Any REAL republican concerned with the integrity of our republic would not tolerate this.
Any REAL conservative concerned with conserving our democracy would not tolerate this.
Hollow headed herdettes - Cheney and Limbaugh have got you twisted up like pretzels.
The only thing "conservative" about them is the first syllable.
Posted by winyahn at 05/16/2008 @ 12:53am
Congratulations Ms. Vanden Heuvel on your pursuit of this issue which is of the utmost importance.
Our beloved democracy is being transformed in an Empire (as ancient Rome was) in an insidious way such that the people will not notice it. An Empire of the industrial and military complex, the Rep party and the cohorts.
And the national press - with very few exceptions, perhaps the Times - is for hire. Why? Distance has been created between what is said and done in the political and military high levels and what the people know. This "necessity of information" for the people is filled out to "make it in the news" without consideration of its legitimacy and the required cross information-verification.
How much do these networks really know? If they knew without doubt that the 'experts' were Pentagon puppets, then their fault is grave and the people of the US should put them into court. One can only think how many more things will they do just to "fill out the show".
I insist that the root problem in the country is that the Legislative power has comed to be very weak, without any leverage on the Executive power. Balance of powers is what is needed to avoid these "secret ploys" that have no place in a democracy.
I will follow up on updates of this very important issue.
Posted by Frank42 at 05/16/2008 @ 01:28am
"Whores here, get your fresh whores here"
"We have top class whores, general whores, fresh from serving their country, here. Fresh whores here"
"Whores here, fresh whores, Air Force whores, Army whores, Marine whores and Navy whores here."
"Fresh whores here. Get your fresh whores"
Posted by Greg Bacon at 05/16/2008 @ 07:40am
oh man, its all coming apart you CRYPTO-FASCIST EVIL ENABLING TREASONOUS TRAITOR!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008
Don't waste your time on the weingehead boy Libz. My guess is that he's either Frankshits or his twin idiot brother.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 @ 07:49am
that was supposed to be weinerhead boy, not "weingehead boy", but may he's a weinghead boy after all whatever the hell that is.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 @ 07:51am
Katrina, Keep the heat on these pentagon jackasses. They are chewing up billions of U.S. tax dollars and lining the pockets of their buddies.
How someone like Cheney was allowed to be involved in a high level government position after being the CEO of Halliburton is amazing. We're talking about a severe conflict of interest the same as Bush being president while his daddy does business with the very Saudi's who are driving the oil prices up.
Most people can't get a security clearance if they or family members are linked with foreign governments and here we have the president of the United States in bed with Saudi Arabia which is counter to the security of the United States. And furthermore, the pentagon, which is aiding and abetting the Saudi's is also pushing this God Damned war down our throats for business profits in the form of defense contracts.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 @ 07:59am
Posted by Greg Bacon at 05/16/2008 |
hee hee. Very funny.
Sexual prostitution is illegal, but military whores are available for all.
grr kill. kill. kill
but, keep your pecker locked up, using that is immoral.
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 08:48am
Come on down, neo-cons, sing us some more diddies about the "librool media"
Sing, sing a song
sing out loud
sing it wrong
sing us a song about how it "is all but over in Iraq"
sing us a song about how the new offensive in Mosul will be the last.
Sing us a song about how Iraq is just like Indiana.
sing it loud
sing it wrong
Come on Ponti, give me a lecture on kool-aid drinkin librools
(I'm puking, The New Kids on the Block are back. retch)
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 08:56am
Well, ibble and koroview, you do realize that OIF is just like WWII, don't you?
It does not matter that the pimps don't know their ass from their ass-hat when it comes to history.
Meanwhile Chimpy McFlightsuit appeases N. Korea, Libya and Pakistan.
sheep. all sheep.
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 09:02am
Bush is talking about golf. What about the 2 DOZEN ECLAIRS Big Dick Cheney picks up from his daughter-in-law's bakery every morning???
Posted by LibsWarnedU at 05/16/2008
What about Rove? You know that sob probably eats his share and W's of the WH eclairs. That's probably why he's out now. He was cutting in on Cheney's eclairs.
I've given up something for the war cause same as W. I've given up buying into W's bullshit which apparently is endless. How anyone in their right mind would believe a word Bush, Cheney, McIdiot or any of the remaining neonuts says is beyond me.
Bush is like the little boy who cried wolf....150000 too many times, but in W's case it's not a wolf, it's the terrarists comin to get us and only redneck stupid ass rethugs can protect us weakling Americans against these terrarists.
Posted by LibsWarnedU at 05/16/2008 Ditto.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 @ 10:24am
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 | ignore this person
i was wondering...if that was some teutonic word/phrase i should have been familiar with, you know, like "zeitgeist" or "sturm and drang"...
lol...
but its cool - as a bad buddhist i love all living beings...
the compassion of cruelty, you know...
and i think these evil bastards NEED to understand what it feels like to live in fear and trepidation. being "empathy challenged" they must feel pain and humiliation themselves to appreciate it.
even then sometimes they simply return the favor even more intensely rather than learn something, like some compassion and grace. but then some are simply too far down their wicked rabbit holes to be reached.
then the showing of cruelty to them is even more compassionate.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/16/2008 @ 1:37pm
Press release, for immediate distribution, United States Dept of State:
The United States Dept of State and Chamber of Commerce are pleased to announce the formation of Iraqi Freedom Motors. This new entrepreneurial enterprise composed of a coalition of multi-national investors will help establish Iraq as the epicenter of green transportation technology in the Middle East.
Achmed Chalibi has taken a lead role in building the core investor group and will be IFM's CEO/CFO. Douglas Feith will be President of Technology Research and Development. Other key investors and management include Ayad Allawi, Eric Prince, King Abdulla of Saudi Arabia and James Watt (former Secretary of the Interior for the United States.)
IFM will take a new and exciting approach to green transportation. While many automobile manufacturers are focusing engineering efforts on gasoline/electric "hybrid" technology, IFM will begin manufacturing "hubris" dual fuel engines. This new technology will be able to deliver maximum horsepower using either religious doctrinal superiority or nationalistic pride. The combination of these two powerful fuels will be readily available throughout the Middle East and the United States of America.
Says IFM spokesman Pontificus al-Takriti " We expect to achieve astonishing mileage with this new technology, upwards of 75 mpg (miles-per-gloat). The eco-terrorists will be routed from their hookah bars by hubris driven cars all across the world, although fuel acquisition may be a problem in many Scandinavian countries such as Cuba. "
Due to continuing security concerns in Iraq, the new "hubris" vehicles will be manufactured in China and Vietnam. This will also help control labor costs and eliminate over burdensome environmental regulation.
Mr. al Takriti explains; "Look, purchasers of these cars and light duty trucks will be reducing their so called "carbon foot-print" by magnitudes, so we hope to offset that in the manufacturing process".
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 2:46pm
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008
Good stuff Crabster. You better watch out though. If the Bush administration or McCain hear about your talents, they'll be hiring you to crank out this kind of thing on their behalf.
You know, it doesn't have to be true, but most people can't read anyway, and the ones that can usually read the first sentence or two and move on to the pictures. You should have slipped Liv in there somewhere. You now, he has vast amounts of religious fuel stored somewhere in his church. Granted, some of that fuel is on reserve to blow people up, but there's an overabundance of that fuel in rev Larry's bunker.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 @ 4:20pm
Posted by leftofcenter at 05/15/2008
Actually that was Joseph Goebels, Dan Rather, and Eason Jordan. Nice try though.
Come to think of it, it might have been Slick Willie, too. Seein' as he's been proven to lie. ‘Course, it's also been proven that Joe Wilson lied, so Bush obviously didn't.
Sure, sure, I know. The knowledge of it sends you into palpitations. Don't worry. Getting angry when faced with truth is probably good for your blood pressure.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/15/2008
Conyers. Isn't he the scumbag that wants to solve the high gas price by adding another 60 cents in federal tax? Or was it Dingell the scumbag? Maybe he was the one that wanted to add 6 Dollars in Federal Gas tax? No, that was Democrat Dodd. How about Obama, who sponsored the "give other American's property to folks in other countries bill? Was it one of the congressmen who has been trying to cut spending and get the Government to obey the Constitution with the Enumerated Powers Act (for 13 years)? Nah! Those are all Republicans.
Guess it must have been Conyers, the lying dirtbag.
Happy to clarify for you again, ibble. Seein' as how you don't seem to have the cranial capacity to handle it yourself.
Translation: Crainial capacity = Brains. Just tryin' to help, since I know you're handicapped.
"Whores here, get your fresh whores here"
Posted by Greg Bacon at 05/16/2008
Hey! I remember that one! They used to play that in place of "Hail to the Chief" during the Clinton Debacle.
What? Oh, I meant "Clinton Administration". You know, when the web name was "Whitehouse.com" instead of "Whitehouse.gov" and the sign out front said "Whorehouse" instead of "Whitehouse".
What a joke. This is almost as bad as watching Katrina and her pathetically stupid adherents castigate Ashcroft for breaking the established Reno policy and having JD begin obeying the law.
I suppose next we'll see her talk about how important it is for the public to know about the illegal malfeasance perpetrated by Hoyer, McNulty, and Pelosi, which was covered in the hearing before the Select Committee to Investigate Voting Irregularities last week. I'm sure Katrina will be demanding censure at least for Hoyer and McNulty.
Nah. I suppose not. That would require some sense of truth and perhaps even a desire for justice.
Nope. Not going to waste time waiting for the Socialists here do have any of th
Posted by nighthawk750 at 05/16/2008 @ 4:32pm
Posted by nighthawk750 at 05/16/2008 | ignore this person
well, treasonous cryptofascist lying traitor, i'll check up on all those explosive allegations of yours...
but perhaps if we had done SOMETHING instead of NOTHING in terms of preparing for the day we knew would come (the drying up of oil reserves) we might be better of now.
you know...plan for future, take rational actions that may indeed involve short term sacrifice...
hey einstein...go listen to kevin james and stock up on some non sequiter rightwing chum talking points...
they will comfort you on your long dark tea time of the soul outside the mainstream...
"appeasement...appeasement...socialists...liberuls...libruls..."
lol - treasonous traitor!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/16/2008 @ 5:16pm
Nope. Not going to waste time waiting for the Socialists here do have any of th
Posted by nighthawk750 at 05/16/2008
You sir are full of crap. Go post with your neo-nazi palls on another website where your sperm burping B.S. is bought. You won't find too many takers here nazi boy.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 @ 5:20pm
Press release, for immediate distribution, United States Dept. of State, 17:17 EST 5/16/08
Just announced by Iraqi Freedom Motors; the hire of new legal council, Mr. Buford J. Nighthawk. Mr. Nighthawk will be using funds left over from the Reagan administrations funding of Iraqi military intelligence programs to finance his office in Kyrgystan. Junior partners will be Mr. John Yoo and Lewis "Scooter" Libby . Mr. Nighthawk said Mr. Libby's lack of license to practice law in the US will not be a hindrance to IFM. "Any legal obstacles we encounter will be a cakewalk" said Counselor Nighthawk.
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 5:22pm
Nope. Not going to waste time waiting for the Socialists here do have any of th
Posted by nighthawk750 at 05/16/2008
hmmm, NH750 didn't finish his thought.
The GBH must have kicked in. Or was it GB-"W"
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 5:25pm
Or did Janet Reno bust down his door?
Damn Nazi bitch enforcing the law! how dare she! Why shouldn't Koresh be able to gun down federal agents? Why aren't family values important to Elian, poor ellllliiiiaaaann?
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008 @ 5:28pm
Posted by crabwalk at 05/16/2008
Nope, it was the commie John Dean III. That democrat attorney from the Nixon administration that brought the whole Watergate scandal tumbling to the ground.
Dean kicked down NightPigeon001's door and caught him red handed waxing the proverbial dolphin over Dobson and Billy Graham pictures on the Internet.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 05/16/2008 @ 5:41pm
How can any sane person not be bothered to know that the govt. and MSM are altering minds with propaganda..?? is it just a case of 'I vote republican' so this story must be 'liberal' propaganda... F'in sheep... I am calling for a jihad on stupidity... Enough right wing horseshite...
Posted by Vvf1969 at 05/16/2008 @ 6:28pm
Anyone ever hear that quote, I am going to butcher it here, "the first step toward fascism is government controlled media." This is getting way too close for me. When the government starts feeding false answers to the taking heads and everyone complies and then when they are called out for it you hear nothing about it, there is a problem.
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/16/2008 @ 8:31pm
Posted by Vvf1969 at 05/16/2008 I associate myself with your remarks: 100%
Posted by Cccomfo1 at 05/16/2008 I associate myself with your remarks: 100%
Crabwalk - Nice! How about the Hubris "Poppy "- cute little biodiesel model that runs on the a combo of Desert crude and Afghan poppies.
Posted by winyahn at 05/16/2008 @ 10:12pm
You want to see something not so funny, funny. Google: If I were a Terrorist And then click on the first link and watch the video.
Then think about it you repugnicant anti-American unpatriotic warmongers.
Posted by ronmurraysr63 at 05/16/2008 @ 11:00pm
ah,
bill clinton's legacy......
Friday, May 16, 2008 11:47:58 PM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/16/2008 @ 11:42pm
Want to see the corporate media inaction? Google "Bush golf solidarity" and you'll barely find any coverage on this sick Bushism by any of the big ten. Instead of ABC, Viacom, GE/NBC... it's
Raw Story, MA
NewsBusters
American Thinker, WA
guardian.co.uk, UK
Black Star News, NY
Giving up golf be in solidarity with our heroes! They'd skewer Obama as ELITIST for anything like this.
As in the beginning of the Iraq debacle, silence is deadly.
Want another example from right now? McCain gets zero reporter queries on police organizations pro reasonable gun control to reduce the really stupid, stoppable deaths of our brave street cops.
Posted by winyahn at 05/17/2008 @ 12:26am
from one golfer to another:
Howard pays for Bush golf clubs By Maria Hawthorne
March 17, 2008 07:45pm
JOHN Howard may have been able to resist a silver cigar box from the Greek prime minister, pearl cufflinks from the Filipino president and a silk carpet from the Iraqi president.
But there was no way he was going to knock back a golf bag, custom putter and club covers from his good buddy US President George W Bush.
Mr Howard was showered with gifts by visiting leaders during last year's APEC summit - and duly surrendered most of them to his department because they were over the allowable limit of $750.
But - perhaps with his impending retirement on his mind - he kept the golf gear, ferried to Sydney aboard Air Force One.
"During the recent APEC meeting I received a golf bag, custom putter and golf covers from the president of the United States of America,'' Mr Howard wrote to House of Representatives Clerk Ian Harris in a declaration dated September 30 last year.
Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:50:41 AM
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/17/2008 @ 12:44am
Thank you CC and Wolf. thank you Ibble and FZ for the idea.
Other than one troll that clearly bought the pimp liars PROPAGANDA, it sure is telling that the neo-cons are staying away from this blog in droves.
sheep all. Scared little sheep.
BOO! Baaa! BOO! baaaahh.. bleet.
Posted by crabwalk at 05/17/2008 @ 10:02am
Then think about it you repugnicant anti-American unpatriotic warmongers.
Posted by ronmurraysr63 at 05/16/2008
They are terrorists. They just hide behind nationalism and other peoples kids.
Posted by crabwalk at 05/17/2008 @ 10:07am
Posted by crabwalk at 05/17/2008 |...neo-cons are staying away from this blog in droves
To this point, ever witnessed a neocon morphing from ugly caterpillar to splendorous progressive?
It's like trying to spot the Ivory-billed woodpecker. Extremely rare and probably an artifact, something else entirely, even when glimpsed.
Posted by winyahn at 05/17/2008 @ 10:47am
Ever witnessed a neocon morphing from ugly caterpillar to splendorous progressive?
99.99% of these foul fowl (chickenhawks) just keep spastically stomping around in their own venom vomit, yelling at everyone in their telltale shrill way ("marxist", "un-American", "asshole", "bullshit") when it splashes in their eyes.
Posted by winyahn at 05/17/2008 @ 11:43am
Posted by frankshitz at 05/17/2008 |
well quackity quack quack! not that i really care, but i think his ratings are around the same as big bill o'really?.
regardless, TREASONOUS CRYPTOFASCIST TRAITOR, your evil heroes' days are numbered!
time to hunker in the bunker and comfort yourselves with mantra-like talking points!!!
enjoy the devolution into pathos!!!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/17/2008 @ 12:51pm
Dont you anti-american assholes have an original thought??????
Posted by frankshitz at 05/17/2008
Yeah, git you-self a "Hubris" model "Pompous" SUV. It will be the first vehicle IFM puts out. They will also have a co-generation engine just for you, it runs on ignorant. You'll never see another fill-up station.
You may even be able to out run the Bogey Man, if not it comes with a Linus blanket in the spare tire compartment.
Posted by crabwalk at 05/17/2008 @ 2:27pm
HEY FRANK-the overcontinent
refresh my memory on the following:
Iraq wmd's
Jessica Lynch going down in a hail of bullets.
Jessica Lynch's heroic rescue, under fire from Republican Guards
Tillmans death at the hands of AQ
Saddam's links to AQ
"Mission Accomplished"
"curveball"
Achmed Chalibi
Niger uranium
Safe air at Ground Zero for the clean-up crews.
Armstrong Williams
"Heckuva job Brownie"
Did you believe all this stuff? Are you that susceptible to gubment propaganda? Do you wear your brownshirt to school?
Posted by crabwalk at 05/17/2008 @ 2:40pm
"curveball"
Achmed Chalibi
Niger uranium
.....................
Armstrong Williams
"Heckuva job Brownie"
<Posted by crabwalk at 05/17/2008>
...such a short list you've compiled...
• but the biggest lie is when THEY* say, "god bless america." •
*not you, of course. i believe YOU.
[[[[thanks for thanking me. but why?]]]]
how's this:
<i><i>Iraqi Freedom Motors is proud to announce for 2009 the all new IFM "Fallujah"
•• super efficient white phosphorus V-52 engine.
•• luxurious all skin interior.
•• built in gps air support.
•• m109a6 paladin surround sound system
•• nifty cupholders.
Be Sure To Stop By Your Local IFM Checkpoint To Witness The Fallujah In Action
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/17/2008 @ 5:06pm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/2005/2-2AARlow.pdf
b. White Phosphorous. WP proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes when we could not get effects on them with HE. We fired "shake and bake" missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out.
http://last-straw.net/wp-content/uploads/white_phosphoruschild.jpg
stupid, stupid, humans.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/17/2008 @ 5:11pm
Nope. Not going to waste time waiting for the Socialists here do have any of th
Posted by nighthawk750 at 05/16/2008 | ignore this person
heart attack, I hope
Posted by emile duBois at 05/17/2008 @ 6:02pm
watch that karma, jr.
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/17/2008 @ 6:36pm
Libzsuck:
How is it that free speech is analogous to hating our country? Is freedom from government (and religious)oppression not the reason we came here in the first place? And exploited the Native Americans, killed them with our diseases (and guns), stuck them on Reservations, etc., etc.
But I digress....
Have you forgotten the Downing Street Memos, CIA reports, Bush's claims of WMD's, AQ links to Saddam, big shipments of Uranium? All lies. Or are you just in denial?
Admit it; this was George W. Bush's personal vendetta, made more palatable (to him) because his cronies are making billions while wasting countless lives (among them, many innocent Iraqis... I consider their lives valuable as well).
I have one word for people like you: Jingoism (no doubt you will have to look it up).
Katrina:
I think I am in love with you. Again, I digress... :)
Posted by terminalv at 05/17/2008 @ 8:06pm
As Bushie Jr. says, you gotta catapault the propaganda...
Posted by wagonjak at 05/17/2008 @ 11:43pm
"We make our own reality"
Posted by crabwalk at 05/18/2008 @ 08:05am
It seems the politicians believe all of them that nothing works without having "double Standards". None of them are proud with their own god given individuality, sense of moral attributes in their characters. How easily they twist the truth, facts around their fingers at will with no conscience its amazing. The lessons which their grand mothers and mothers taught them so long time ago lost without a trace.
Cheney has designed his life as if he's gonna live for another 100 more years with the money coming in from Iraq.
Bush's mother clearly said "Not him, he is a clown in the family" when it was suggested to bring this idiot into the political scene".
Americans are blessed with one quality which is "forgiveness", which they should never apply on their politicians to make USA a nation of credibility.
Posted by aleemsyed at 05/18/2008 @ 10:12am
This idiot said once "God asked me to invade IRAQ!" Is he so divine, an apostel, that God speaks to him? Why didnt the congress unanimously called upon the best psychiatrists to evaluate his mental state after that statement was made as he could distruction or already has, to this planet. He is insane, 700,000 iraqis died, 4000 americans (brothers, husbands, fathers) died, making him the biggest terrorist that world has ever seen.
I would forgive him personally if he comes on national TV and admits that he was wrong and asks for forgiveness,
This guy himself admitted he is an alchoholic, doesnt look at the newspapers, nor watches TV, he simply doesnt live in reality at all.
Posted by aleemsyed at 05/18/2008 @ 10:26am
god spoke to me and told me to beware those who claim to speak to god...
i told him to leave me alone and he laughed at me. he's still laughing.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/18/2008 @ 3:39pm
As to conservatives changing to progressive. Only if they have lost their mental faculties or they have decided to abrogate the ideas of personal responsibility and personal accountability, or they no longer have the personal drive and self esteem to actually make it on their own merits, or they just want to become leeches at the public trough.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 05/18/2008
thats just bullshit. non sequiter chumtalk.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 05/18/2008 @ 6:53pm
I agree with the outrage expressed in Ms. Van den Heuvel's piece. I am distressed but not surprised to see all the reflexively negative comments from Americans accusing the writer of being un-patriotic for not supporting the government's propoganda campaign.
The greater shame is that this issue has yet to gain traction with the mass media. Think of it: CNN, MSNBC, etc. discover the military analysts they (and their viewing public) relied on to justify going to war were actually shills for administration policy. I may not understand all facets of American government, but I can say with confidence that this is not the stuff of Democracy.
American democracy is dead. Long live the kleptocracy.
Posted by pwgbsmd at 05/18/2008 @ 8:05pm
lvliberty1 at 05/18/2008
personal responsibility!
personal accountability!
personal drive!
self esteem!
make it on your own merits!
no leeches at the public trough!
Gosh LV your team's got all the really neato stuff.
Posted by winyahn at 05/19/2008 @ 12:28am
I can't imagine why we would want to hear from some anti-war nut on how things are going for the military.
--by lvliberty1--
Like... for instance... Jesus?
It's not that they were 'consulted' to explain 'how things are going for the military'... but that they were used to 'legitimize' a policy that had little or no basis in fact. The run up to war was never presented openly and honestly for public debate, and barely received any 'official' scrutiny in the legislature... which, if I remember correctly... is more or less bassakwards, Constitutionally speaking...
Posted by ttr at 05/19/2008 @ 12:38am
I have lvliberty1 on ignore; does he still have his head so far up his ass that his x-rays show him having 2 necks, one inside the other?
Posted by brantl at 05/19/2008 @ 3:04pm
And in the Grand Universal Arena of LV's fantasy-life, it's the Victorious and Glorious, Courageous Patriarchs of Pride, Responsibility and Merit, against the Scum-sucking Parasites, Fear-based Gluttons at the Public Trough...
LV, were you big on superheroes as a kid? Still have the robe, errr... cape?
Posted by winyahn at 05/19/2008 @ 3:37pm
cape?
Posted by winyahn
Edna: It will be bold! Dramatic!
Bob: Yeah!
Edna: Heroic!
Bob: Yeah. Something classic, like, like Dynaguy. Oh, he had a great look! Oh, the cape and the boots...
Edna: [throws a wadded ball of paper at Bob's head] No capes!
Bob: Isn't that my decision?
Edna: Do you remember Thunderhead? Tall, storm powers? Nice man, good with kids.
Bob: Listen, E...
Edna: November 15th of '58! All was well, another day saved, when... his cape snagged on a missile fin!
Bob: Thunderhead was not the brightest bulb...
Edna: Stratogale! April 23rd, '57! Cape caught in a jet turbine!
Bob: E, you can't generalize about these things...
Edna: Metaman, express elevator! Dynaguy, snagged on takeoff! Splashdown, sucked into a vortex! [shouts]
Edna: No capes!
Posted by frosty zoom at 05/19/2008 @ 10:15pm
Got cape?
Pope's got one helluva cape.
But the rocker turbo thrust booster 's in the hat.
He flies upside down and backwards.
Whole robe blows in reverse,
Magnificent 360 degree cape.
In flight, Superpope looks like a man-size badminton birdie in reverse.
Posted by winyahn at 05/20/2008 @ 01:47am