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RedditAs the hostage situation at Hillary headquarters in New Hampshire unfolds, right-wing message boards like Free Republic are lighting up with sarcastic, conspiratorial, and even celebratory commentary.
Many Freepers joked that the hostage taker, a man claiming to have a bomb, was really a Clinton "plant." A few examples of conservative "humor:"
To: raccoonradioIs it Keith Kerr?
4 posted on 11/30/2007 10:33:20 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans who support Rudy owe Bill Clinton an apology.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: raccoonradio
Recruiting questioners?
19 posted on 11/30/2007 10:35:10 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
To: NonValueAdded Too late. Billary has had them implanted. ( Haven't you noticed the deeper voice and the 5 o'clock shadow? ) 29 posted on 11/30/2007 10:35:42 AM PST by Leisler (RNC, RINO National Committee. Always was, always will be.) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies ]
Another Freeper invoked the tawdry, fabricated rumor of a lesbian affair between Hillary and staffer Huma Abedin:
To: coloradanIs Huma with Hillary today? probably
34 posted on 11/30/2007 10:36:04 AM PST by txflake (Yes there were WMDs) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies ]
And what would a Freeper thread be without some reference to Bill Clinton's sexual dalliances?
To: raccoonradioThe vile Freeper commentary continues on and on, and grows progressively more revealing of the pathology of the Republican base. The tone of commenters over at Politico is no less despicable. But according to Joe Lieberman flack and Politico contributor Dan Gerstein, left-wing bloggers are the ones who need "some adult supervision."Has Bill got Ms. Willey cornered again?
7 posted on 11/30/2007 10:33:41 AM PST by Texas Songwriter [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
Update: Media Matters for America has jumped into the fray, asking: "After previously highlighting comments on progressive blogs, will media cover hateful comments on Free Republic about NH hostage situation?" MMFA has much, much more, including screen captures of Freepers gone wild.
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Mr Blumenthal,
Given the loathing of Her Nibs by the Left....you think this kind of stuff is going to remain exclusive to the Right for long?
I'd pop over to a Randi Rhodes or Mike Malloy blog and check first!
Posted by Mask at 11/30/2007 @ 4:40pm
hmmm...i'll have to check those sites out...
hillery aside, always fun to lob grenades, flametongue, and run.
but what does one not expect in terms of vileness? i mean hell, its the party of "make fun of micheal j fox" himself, el rushbo...
not thr "repugnants" fer nuthin!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 4:50pm
Of course Mr Blumenthal...WE do have RIO...which kinda bolsters your point!
heheh
BTW, RIO, I agree with you on New England states....so if the election comes down to a guy from Massachusetts (Romney) or a guy from New York (Giuliani)...or a woman from the Midwest (Illinois), spent her life in Arkansas (HRC), or a guy also from the Midwest (Obama), or a guy from the South (Edwards)...
you'll support the non-New Englander, right?
Posted by Mask at 11/30/2007 @ 5:05pm
Poop!
Posted by DaveNasti at 11/30/2007 @ 5:07pm
But, seriously, is this is what happens when you give New England states any prominence nationally?
Posted by RIO BRAVO 11/30/2007 @ 4:57pm
On behalf of New England, the region which gave rise to the United States and from whence I hail, may I say that your previous post, which I conceive to be a feeble attempt at a joke, was complete gibberish and also add, STFU.
Troll.
Posted by skeletonman at 11/30/2007 @ 5:36pm
get 'em mad max!
obamagirl 4ever!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 6:10pm
Yeah, Mask. You can check out http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?showtopic=123090 and see for yourself.
Posted by JeremiahP at 11/30/2007 @ 6:11pm
From the MSNBC website:
LibocalypseNowMessage #13 11/30/07 01:12 PM No doubt this guy is just another Clinton News Network plant. How low will the corrupts Clintons stoop to grab that power? This is nothing more than another corrupt Clinton dirty trick. You can bet on it.
AlGoreMessage #17 11/30/07 01:20 PM The guy has every reason to be p i s s e d! Wouldn't you be .....if you found out Hillary's husband was doing your daughter?
LibocalypseNowMessage #20 11/30/07 01:27 PM Yea those corrupt Clintons will apparently do anything to get a bump in the polls. I guess the Clinton Boot-Lickers really will buy anything.
Posted by Dr Decibels at 11/30/2007 @ 6:35pm
More from MSNBC:
LibocalypseNowMessage #32 11/30/07 01:40 PM I'm sure ole Hitlery will now give her Gestapo the order to terminate this man like they did at Waco. He has already served his purpose. He may have given Hitlery a slight bump in the polls so he should be pushing up daisies any minute now
Posted by Dr Decibels at 11/30/2007 @ 6:38pm
Breaking News Hillary To Offer Blow Job To End Stand Off At NH Office (Calling It Open Mouth Diplomacy) F.U.B.A.R.Message #1 11/30/07 01:55 PM man Heard screaming form Hillary's NH office Oh baby do me 1 more time.
Posted by Dr Decibels at 11/30/2007 @ 6:47pm
you're going to blame right-wing bloggers for being cynical about a political campaign built on cynical and self-elevating prinicples?
get a grip. clinton & her cast of synchophantic characters bring a lot of the BS onto themselves. so they make a joke it's a clinton "plant", what do you expect? you act like "right-wingers" are the only despicable political animals out there. grow up.
Posted by Scrub at 11/30/2007 @ 6:49pm
Posted by SCRUB 11/30/2007 @ 6:49pm
Uh, let's see...... oh, how about, BLOW IT OUT YER ASS?
Posted by Dr Decibels at 11/30/2007 @ 6:55pm
Hey MAX,
Your the fucking troll you nitwit.....you stalk republican events all the time with your hidden cameras....and by the way...if you wanna read the nuts on what happened today...take a gander at the DailyKook....aka Dailykos...."its a right wing nut that did it~!!!!
Posted by Frankshitsz at 11/30/2007 @ 7:17pm
Posted by FRANKSHITSZ 11/30/2007 @ 7:17pm | ignore this person
hell yeah mad max stalks your fascist events all the time showing you jerks for the borderline retards you are! more macacas needed! HAR HAR HAR!
cause when the white hot spotlight gets shined on your heroes little anally retentive intellectually vacuous and insecure fascist hatefests...
its obvious what a pack of angry pathetic halfwit hypocrites and borderline tards you guys are...
"uh..libuhruls are stooopid! we dont unduhstand their crazy talk, so they must be stooopid...cuz weeer geeeneeuses!"
ah, the degeneration into idiocracy...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 7:30pm
again, max, thanks for the links...think i found some cool places to lob granades and flametongue some semi-tards...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 7:32pm
Well, I was wondering what was taking them so long.
They're gonna feel as stupid as they are when they find out this Eisenberg clown, a delusional, conspiratorial idiot with road flares strapped to his chest, is one of their own.
But I'm glad they showed their true colors tonight. I needed to fill another slot for this weekend's Assclowns of the Week.
Posted by jurassicpork at 11/30/2007 @ 7:32pm
Posted by JURASSICPORK 11/30/2007 @ 7:32pm | ignore
you know, the thing about the con-tards is that not only are they abysmally stupid, but they are proud of their abysmal stupidity!
and they are so stupid/arrogant/vain that of course they think they are geniuses! i love going to their sites and baiting them into traps until one of the few non-tards realizes whats up and they ban me...har har har!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 7:40pm
He let the mother holding an infant go free! Demoncrats ALWAYS "Do it for the children" and if a Demoncrat he would be holding the infant now!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RIO BRAVO 11/30/2007 @ 4:53pm | ignore this person
Good god man, do you ever pause for just one nanosecond to consider how totally idiotic your comments will seem plopped down like rancid turds in the midst of otherwise reasonable discourse? Do you wake up saying "I will not publicly humiliate myself today", only to see that doomed promise turned to ashes with your first half witted utterance? Do you really think anyone here regards your posts as more than tragic comedy, a grisly pileup of clown cars? I am amazed that you possess the dexterity and cognitive capacity to even turn on your computer, unfortunately, said cognitive capacity falls quite short of allowing you to type even one thing that could be regarded by anyone, anywhere as a cogent, rational thought. Your insipid, posts kill more brain cells than a liter of whiskey followed by a swift kick to the skull. Go lay down in traffic you troglodyte.
Posted by entropy at 11/30/2007 @ 8:35pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 11/30/2007 @ 4:50pm
What I like about your mob Ibbie is that they are simple folks, kind and courteous to all, friend and foe alike so you're OK. OK?
But I can't say the same for Max who gets off on publishing this "vile" stuff, in all its lurid detail and as if we haven't had enough and can't stop blushing he gives us directions on how to obtain more of this terrible pornography, presumably imagining that we also are those who would debase ourselves by giving in to our lower desires. Here is his invitation to imbibe this degrading tripe:
"The vile (Freeper) commentary continues on and on, and grows progressively more revealing of the pathology of the Republican base. The tone of commenters over at (Politico) is no less despicable."
I only post this to show how unlike your crew Max really is and not to send any poor weak soul off on a feeding frenzy.
Posted by lrjones4 at 11/30/2007 @ 8:52pm
Posted by LRJONES4 11/30/2007 @ 8:52pm
enjoy life under krudd...sounds like a stand up bloke to me...
aw come on, croc! look at FRANKSHITZ style/mentality, multiply it by say...oh .5 - .75 and you have the typical con-troll/con-tard thats been telling their "libuhrul" intellectual superiors how stupid we are for YEARS now...
then consider the fact that indeed since the stolen election of 2000, we non con-tards have had to listen to these obnoxious lackwits repeat their stupid, evil lies and have watched our country slide toward stupid/fear enabled fascism...all the while subjected to the taunting derision of these coulteresque fascism enablers...who have on their hands the blood of uncounted innocents and the waste of treasury as a result of their stupidity and partisan wickedness...
they deserve a hell of a lot worse than my and my mob's bile and ridicule...and indeed to respond to their stupid wickedness with decency and forebearance...would be indecent and seen by them not as a sign of decency but a weakness to be taken advantage of.
thats how evil works. bright or dim, there comes a point where one ceases being decent and calls a stupid, evil facist spade a stupid, evil fascist spade.
and i hope i do hurt their feelings...they deserve worse.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 9:21pm
IBBLEBLIBBLE: Please rethink the "tards" thing. Its insulting to people who, through no fault of their own, suffer mental retardation. These right wing assholes have had every oportunity, privilage and advantage that life in the US has to offer and they still vile, nasty, hateful pricks. They may not be the brightest bulbs on the "Holiday" tree, but its by choice. What do you call someone who is willfully ignorant? Besides Republican.
Posted by Henk at 11/30/2007 @ 9:34pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 11/30/2007 @ 7:40pm
Who would want to ban you... ;)
Posted by ACook at 11/30/2007 @ 9:39pm
"What do you call someone who is willfully ignorant? Besides Republican."
Posted by HENK 11/30/2007 @ 9:34pm
Sorry HENK, but the dems are just as woofully ignorant.
Posted by ACook at 11/30/2007 @ 9:42pm
Posted by HENK 11/30/2007 @ 9:34pm
you are right...its an insult to retarded people to compare them to repugnant con-trolls...
but hey! check out this gem! 2004 presuhdeshul uhlecshun reesultz...
AVERAGE POP PRESIDENT LIST STATE IQ ELECT 1 Connecticut 113 John Kerry 2 Massachusetts 111 John Kerry 3 New Jersey 111 John Kerry 4 New York 109 John Kerry 5 Rhode Island 107 John Kerry 6 Hawaii 106 John Kerry 7 Maryland 105 John Kerry 8 New Hampshire 105 John Kerry 9 Illinois 104 John Kerry 10 Delaware 103 John Kerry 11 Minnesota 102 John Kerry 12 Vermont 102 John Kerry 13 Washington 102 John Kerry 14 California 101 John Kerry 15 Pennsylvania 101 John Kerry 16 Maine 100 John Kerry 17 Virginia 100 George Bush 18 Wisconsin 100 John Kerry 19 Colorado 99 George Bush 20 Iowa 99 George Bush 21 Michigan 99 John Kerry 22 Nevada 99 George Bush 23 Ohio 99 George Bush 24 Oregon 99 John Kerry 25 Alaska 98 George Bush 26 Florida 98 George Bush 27 Missouri 98 George Bush 28 Kansas 96 George Bush 29 Nebraska 95 George Bush 30 Arizona 94 George Bush 31 Indiana 94 George Bush 32 Tennessee 94 George Bush 33 North Carolina 93 George Bush 34 West Virginia 93 George Bush 35 Arkansas 92 George Bush 36 Georgia 92 George Bush 37 Kentucky 92 George Bush 38 New Mexico 92 George Bush 39 North Dakota 92 George Bush 40 Texas 92 George Bush 41 Alabama 90 George Bush 42 Louisiana 90 George Bush 43 Montana 90 George Bush 44 Oklahoma 90 George Bush 45 South Dakota 90 George Bush 46 South Carolina 89 George Bush 47 Wyoming 89 George Bush 48 Idaho 87 George Bush 49 Utah 87 George Bush 50 Mississippi 85 George Bush
ok...not quite "tards"...how bout..."lackwits"?
better?
HAR HAR HAR HARDY HAR HAR!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 9:45pm
Posted by ACOOK 11/30/2007 @ 9:39pm | ignore this person
MOOHAHAHA!
(i'm a vewy bad boy...lol)
hows your son, dear?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 9:47pm
It's sad that this thread seems more focused on a few individuals who made lite fare of today's events and missed the opportunity to speak on the seriousness of mental illness.
Perhaps the Hillary campaign will take the opportunity to speak on this, but I seriously doubt it.
Posted by ACook at 11/30/2007 @ 9:51pm
Posted by RIO BRAVO 11/30/2007 @ 9:46pm |
au contraire, grasshopper! the rinzai (samurai) zen master strikes his charges most lovingly cruelly and with great compassion in order to destroy their ignorant self grasping! sometimes he breaks their bones and severs their fingers in his inscrutable sterling caring lightning-like wisdom! he is the drill instructor of the spirit, a harsh taskmaster and cruel benefactor!
SMACK!
THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 9:52pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 11/30/2007 @ 9:47pm
Hey!! He's doing good. He went back to base on Wednesday (..of course his visit wasn't long enough... :) He should be graduating bc about the second week of December. His dad and I will up there cheering him on...
Posted by ACook at 11/30/2007 @ 9:58pm
Posted by ACOOK 11/30/2007 @ 9:58pm | ignore this person
and then ait...i pray he is safe. i'm working on getting someone elected that will not send him to iran.
will he get to come home for xmas?
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 10:03pm
"will he get to come home for xmas?"
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 11/30/2007 @ 10:03pm
Don't know and he didn't say. But it's funny you should mention that, because he and his dad spent a lot time together while he was here and everytime I saw them, they would look at me an grin. I think those two are up to something...???
Posted by ACook at 11/30/2007 @ 10:30pm
Posted by ACOOK 11/30/2007 @ 10:30pm |
"dear mom,
remember all those people you warned me to avoid when i got to the army? the floozies and gamblers and drinkers and such? you were right! they're all here!
p.s. i just got married to a wonderul working woman a few years older with a couple of kids. i know you will love them all as much as i and they will be coming to visit you when i get shiped off."
just kidding...lol...probably were talking about a christmas suprise...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 11/30/2007 @ 10:44pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 11/30/2007 @ 9:21pm
Well said. Dante has an eigth-level for them!
Posted by lefthookjab at 11/30/2007 @ 11:16pm
Sorry, that should've read, 'eighth'. (OOOPPS, I just confused a bunch of freepers, now...)
Posted by lefthookjab at 11/30/2007 @ 11:34pm
Posted by EVERYBODY 11/30/2007 @ The Evening | ignore these people
the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round,
'round and 'round,
'round and 'round.
just kidding.
buenas noches.
Posted by frosty zoom at 11/30/2007 @ 11:36pm
Thanks for reading 'em over there, so I could stay clean over here, Max. By the way, I've seen your videos on talkingpointsmemo.com and they are quite good. I'm glad you're on our side.
Posted by seashell5 at 12/01/2007 @ 01:29am
RIO, using your "logic", then the odds are good that this lunatic is one of yours, right?
How interesting that the lie-followers will insinuate a lesbian affair (is this just the manly man fixation with girl-on-girl action from the Family Values crowd?) but not be able to put the correct names in place. Of course it should read:
"Does anybody know where Hillary and Mary Cheney (Cheney's, er Satans, favorite daughter) are at the moment?".
RIO, why is it that you guys are so afraid of lesbians, but completely incapable of accepting the existence of Mary? Other than Barney Frank and Mark Foley, wouldn't she be the most famous Biblical abhoration to come out of Washington DC?
ENTROPY, remember, RIO claims to be an "independent" Can't you just feel it in his posts?
It makes quite literally, zero sense.
Posted by MADLIB 12/01/2007 @ 03:42am
Get used to it, he hears something on the radio and shows up here to repeat what he thinks he heard.
I think maybe this nutjob hostage taker misheard as well. The accent was too thick over the phone and he heard "Take Hillary some , instead of the Midwestern accent...flowers".
Since the 70's came to an end, has there been a "left-wing" act of terror in this country resulting in death or serious injury? According to the pants shitting fear filled sheep, I think it about time our troops invade the red states and finally remove the threat to peace and freedom these nutjobs represent.
US NEWS and WORLD REPORT--In the 10 years since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing killed 168 people, roughly 60 right-wing terrorist plots have been uncovered in the United States, according to an upcoming report by the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project. The plots, all foiled by law enforcement, reportedly included violent plans by antigovernment militia groups, racist skinhead organizations, and Ku Klux Klan members to use various types of chemical bombs and other weapons.
The plots demonstrate that the Department of Homeland Security still needs to closely monitor right-wing groups, says Heidi Beirich, with the Intelligence Project. The DHS was criticized by hate-group experts in April when an internal planning document on domestic terrorist threats was leaked to the press. The DHS report listed radical leftist groups, such as the Animal Liberation Front and the Earth Liberation Front, which have been involved in numerous arson cases, but not violent right-wing militia and skinhead groups.
...April 10, 2003: The FBI raided the home of William Krar, of Noonday, Texas, and discovered an arsenal of more than 500,000 rounds of ammunition, 65 pipe bombs and remote control briefcase bombs, and almost 2 pounds of sodium cyanide, enough to make a bomb that could kill everyone in a large building. Krar, reportedly associated with white supremacist groups, was sentenced to 11 years in prison for possession of a chemical weapon.
This last example happened in the days leading up to the invasion of Iraq, which the RIO crowd will tell us was to prevent the spread of chemical weapons of mass destruction. I am willing to bet almost none of you heard about it. I find that more than just a bit odd, don't ya'll? That the US is getting ready to invade another country because of terrorism, but the DHS does not publicize the capture of a homegrown terrorist cell. Why wouldn't Ashcroft have been all over the air like he was with the feared Dirty Bomber Who Wasn't?
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 09:27am
From an evil socialist website, based on a Congressional Quarterly report:
Under a section marked "Threat and Vulnerability Assessment," the document asks and answers the question, "Who are the adversaries?" This includes Al Qaeda and its affiliates, both overseas and within the United States. The only other domestic threat specifically noted is from so-called "eco-terrorists," who "will continue to focus their attacks on property damage in an effort to change policy." The document claims that although "publicly ALF and ELF promote nonviolence toward human life . . . some members may escalate their attacks."
It is remarkable that there is no mention of the anti-abortion, militia, racist and homophobic groups that do not "publicly ... promote nonviolence," but rather openly advocate the killing of blacks, gays, abortion providers and government workers. Moreover, these groups have acted on their words.
Fascist, racist and anti-abortion groups are responsible for nearly all the terrorist attacks in the United States--with the exception of September 11, 2001--over the past two decades. These include the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, which killed 168 people, as well as bombings of abortion clinics and assassination of abortion providers, and multiple cases of individual rampages, like that of Benjamin Smith, who went on a killing spree directed at blacks, Jews and immigrants in 1999.
In several of the mass shootings at US high schools, including the two worst cases, at Columbine High School in 2000 and at Red Lake High School in rural Minnesota last month, the youth who carried out the murder-suicides were influenced by neo-Nazi propaganda which they accessed on the Internet.
The existence of a sizeable support network for right-wing terrorists is indicated by the ability of Eric Rudolph, who carried out bombings at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta and at abortion clinics in Atlanta and Birmingham, Alabama, to stay on the loose for more than five years. Captured in 2003 in rural North Carolina, Rudolph accepted a plea bargain last month which lifted the threat of execution and allowed him to remain silent on how and by whom he was sustained during his years on the run.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 09:30am
Posted by FRANKSHITSZ 11/30/2007 @ 7:17pm
Heay, Lambchop! How U Doin'
You make me swoon with your deep seated humanity and inherent sweetness.
Got your boxers?
good, good.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 09:32am
Thanks for the heads up Max. I was directed here by BuzzFlash and have seen your YouTube videos and is how I became acquainted with who you are.
I will never understand Republicans. They are anti-American and inhumane to say the very least. Sadistic in nature they thrive off the pain of others while supporting Bush's anti-terrorism stance and good enough reason to go to war. But let it happen to a Democrat and they rally for the terrorist bomber and hostage taker and at the very least, mock it's authenticity. Republicans are cruel sick and twisted individuals, about 51% of the voters if the voting machines weren't rigged I'd think that was true but, since they are rigged there is really no way of knowing how many of these psychotic sociopaths we are actually dealing with since they seem to have this special ability to have more votes than voters.
Ever try to beat a video game on Expert settings? Knowing they have the ability to rig voting machines, I suggest everyone fill out a paper ballot because these Republicans are the lowest of low and the scum of the Earth. They are the parasite on the ass of the world.
GET OUT AND VOTE! ON PAPER BALLOTS! DEMAND IT OR HAVE ONE MAILED TO YOU!
Take Care, Chuck :)
Posted by Chuck1967 at 12/01/2007 @ 09:33am
Maybe the invasion wasn't about WMDs, maybe it was about LGBT's...
Qom, Iran--Lesbians and gay men "should be killed in the worst, most severe way of killing" according to a March 15 fatwa, or legal pronouncement, issued by Grand Ayatollah Ali al Sistani.
Sistani issued the fatwa when asked, "What is the judgment for sodomy and lesbianism?" Sistani replied, "Forbidden. Punished, in fact, killed. The people involved should be killed in the worst, most severe way of killing."
According to the British LGBT group OutRage, Sistani's pronouncement will worsen conditions for gay, lesbian, and transgender Iraqis, who already face increasing persecution since the U.S. invasion elevated the power of the Shi'a majority.
The Badr Corps militia, which is the armed wing of Sistani's Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution, has been increasingly "witch hunting" lesbian and gay Iraqis, and using violence, beatings, kidnappings and assassinations to enforce Sistani's interpretation of Shari'ah, or divine Islamic law.
Similar to what is occurring in Iran, the Badr are using internet chat rooms to entrap gay men.
Men who remain unmarried by age 30 or who are effeminate are put under surveillance by the Badr, on suspicion that they might be gay. The men are told that they have one month to change their ways and provide proof that they plan to marry a woman.
Those who don't usually disappear and are typically found dead later, blindfolded, hands bound behind their back, and shot execution-style in the back of the head.
The Badr use similar tactics to intimidate and terrorize Sunnis, moderate Shi'a, trade unionists, women's rights activists and secularists.
sounds like our friends in Focus on the Family have some supporters amongst the Jihadists.
Shocking, no?
During the program, a rambling sermon by Swaggart who is trying to rehabilitate himself after an arrest for soliciting a prostitute, the televangelist turned to the subject of gay marriage.
According to a transcript of the program, Swaggart said: "I'm trying to find the correct name for it ... this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. ... I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died."
The remarks were met with applause from his congregation.
The program was taped at Swaggart's ministry in New Orleans where voters Saturday agreed to amend the Louisiana constitution to bar same-sex marriage.
The CRTC investigation was prompted by a complaint by a viewer in Ottawa. It is not known if any complaints had been made in the US where the show appears on stations in all 50 states. A spokesperson for the FCC which regulates television in the US did not return calls for comment Sunday.
So, Janet Jackson gets TV broadcasters socked with multiple $25,000 fines for showing a doily on her titties, but Swaggart gets a free pass on killing gays.
Ain't America Grand,
under the American Taliban?
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 09:47am
Sorry, joke misfired:
I think maybe this nutjob hostage taker misheard as well. The Texas accent was too thick over the phone and he heard "Take Hillary some fl'ares ", instead of the Midwestern accent...flowers.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 09:52am
Typical of the Rightwing Id (as in Idiocy...).
There's no hope for most of them.
Posted by greenpagan at 12/01/2007 @ 10:04am
Posted by CRABWALK 12/01/2007 @ 09:30am | ignore this person
exactly...in terms of domestic terror...watch out fer the rightwing wackos...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/01/2007 @ 11:29am
Rio-Are you an adult?
Posted by i'm nobody at 12/01/2007 @ 11:47am
Rio-Why do people in Oklahoma put trailer parks that have no storm shelters in tornado zones?
Posted by i'm nobody at 12/01/2007 @ 12:54pm
hypocrisy-leftists are your friends
Certainly there is no similar rantings from the left about conservatives. Just look at the benevolent attitudes posted here by loving leftists.
And Conshame, John Shaft, Will C, Ibbleblibble, and a host of others are consistently fine examples of leftist peace and respect for those with differing views.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 12/01/2007 @ 1:28pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/01/2007 @ 1:28pm
Should we respect Romney for his views on your beliefs?
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 1:38pm
Posted by I'M NOBODY 12/01/2007 @ 12:54pm
Same reason people in Michigan, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas, Florida do.
Same reason people in California build on mudslides and earthquake zones.
Cuz they is people, and people is self delusional and myopic.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 1:44pm
LvLiberty-You mean were supposed to respect Rio and his joke about a child that was in danger?Why?
Posted by i'm nobody at 12/01/2007 @ 1:44pm
Crasb-Rio shouldn't be making fun of other parts of the country since his people engage in idiotic acts.
Posted by i'm nobody at 12/01/2007 @ 1:45pm
Posted by I'M NOBODY 12/01/2007 @ 1:45pm |
That doesn't leave much room for me, or anybody else, to mock anything.
Kinda takes the fun out of this bar.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 1:52pm
The question should be, why don't the people that build and run "mobile home communities" supply their tenants with a safe shelter?
Posted by crabwalk at 12/01/2007 @ 1:55pm
Crabs-didn't want to ruin your fun,but just wanted to point out rios hypocrisy.
Posted by i'm nobody at 12/01/2007 @ 1:57pm
LvLiberty-respecting others views does extend to views that are deemed to be dangerous.
Posted by i'm nobody at 12/01/2007 @ 1:59pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/01/2007 @ 1:28pm
oh come come now, LL. we NEVER saw such ugly rantage from the right over the last decade or two, especially since this war on terrorism thing have we?
prominant conservative mouthpieces and two bit con-troll flametongue posters NEVER said ugly things about those who disagreed with them these last few years...
they NEVER accused them of TREASON (a capital offence) for doubting the justifications for war, NEVER called them stupid, vacuous, evil...
was it all just a bad dream? was it all just good natured razzin?
doesn't feel good, does it, when you're on the recieving end? and you know, if i thought most of you right wingers were capable of feeling empathy i wouldn't give it back to you with both barrells.
but since i indeed dont think most vitriolic right wingers are capable of empathy, nor of even doing the right thing sans reward/punishment moral motivation...
enjoy my vitriol...there's more to come.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/01/2007 @ 2:45pm
enjoy my vitriol...there's more to come.
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/01/2007 @ 2:45pm | i
although in all fairness, i don't remember much if any true mean spiritedness from you personally...neither do i remember you opposing such either, however...
but don't take my vitriol too personally. i like you and most of the con-trolls who post here, which is why i so compassionately spew loving vitriol your way.
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/01/2007 @ 3:16pm
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/01/2007 @ 3:16pm
that's right.
we're just trying to chip away at the mortar in the neocon edifice.
and that's cuz you're our buddies.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/01/2007 @ 3:52pm
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/01/2007 @ 3:52pm
sowin' and reapin'...
the kindness of cruelty!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/01/2007 @ 4:32pm
LvLiberty-respecting others views does extend to views that are deemed to be dangerous.
Posted by I'M NOBODY 12/01/2007 @ 1:59pm
IM,
I will assume you meant to say doesn't instead of does.
Given that premise, why would not conservatives be justified in our lack of respect for dangerous views such as those on the left;
1. who deny the threat of terrorism (think Darladoon among others)?
2. believe that infanticide is a normal lifestyle option?
3. believe in totalitarian governments through socialist seizure of the wages and property of individuals/families?
4. believe in denying individuals the right to choose their healthcare planning including whether to even participate in a healthcare plan?
5. believe in respecting the right of individuals to worship God if they so desire without prejudice? (see Will C, Conshame, John Shaft and some others)
6. Most importantly, believe in the right and dignity of individuals to hold political, social, philosophical, and scientific views/beliefs/opinions that are different from that of liberals?
Point 6 is especially noteworthy as conservatives seldom criticize liberals and leftists as not deserving the respect for the right to hold their views ( a few kooks aside-see Aludra and Frankshitz). And it must be noted that not all liberals and leftists believe that conservative philosophy is never to be respected as a legitimate opinion.
But many on this thread and elsewhere do hold extreme positions on conservatives.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 12/01/2007 @ 5:11pm
6. Most importantly, believe in the right and dignity of individuals to hold political, social, philosophical, and scientific views/beliefs/opinions that are different from that of liberals?
Point 6 is especially noteworthy as conservatives seldom criticize liberals and leftists as not deserving the respect for the right to hold their views ( a few kooks aside-see Aludra and Frankshitz). And it must be noted that not all liberals and leftists believe that conservative philosophy is never to be respected as a legitimate opinion.
But many on this thread and elsewhere do hold extreme positions on conservatives.
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/01/2007 @ 5:11pm |
again, LL, if the shoe don't fit, don't wear it. i do indeed respect you and your right to hold different opinions.
and with the exeption of the ever regenerating con-troll, frankshitz...i've noticed a paucity of the most obnoxious con-trolls here recently...
"where have all the con-trolls gone...?" back to their caves?
but i've always liked and respected you, rio, jomama, happy, and a few other political retards...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/01/2007 @ 6:00pm
Ain't America Grand,
under the American Taliban?
Posted by CRABWALK 12/01/2007 @ 09:47am
Maybe we should have invaded Iraq in 2001 in the interests of homosexuals Crabs, because that's when Saddam, apart from previous persecutions of them, got fairdinkum and made homosexual practice a capital crime.
As you know the present generals are doing a magnificent job over there right now and that is one reason I've not offered my services. My expertise is not in gay and lesbian rights but yours clearly is, so why don't you get over there and do more than just talk about it?
After you read the following you could go and do your physical etc and be over there helping the cause almost before you could say, Crabs!.. Sir!:
CRIMINAL CODE: Ba'athist
The authoritarian nature of the Ba'athist government makes it difficult to gather definitive information about what were the Ba'athist polices with regards to sexual orientation or gender identity.
In the United Nations, the Iraqi delegation cited religion, despite being a secular state at the time as their reasoning for opposing efforts to have the international body support gay rights.
Yet, homosexual practices between consenting adults in private were not officially made illegal in Iraq until 2001, when it was made a capital crime. Prior to that point, Iraqi gays and bisexuals who lived during the 1980s - 1990s have since reported that a Ba'athist crackdown on homosexuality and establishments known to function as gay bars took place in the 1990s.
This is also around the same time that the Ba'athist regime lost the first Persian Gulf War, and faced an uprising in northern and southern Iraq, and this crackdown may have been part of a larger attempt by the government to appeal to Sunni and Shiitee social conservatives as the early 1990s.
CRIMINAL CODE: Post-Ba'athist
In 2003, Paul Bremer ordered that the Iraqi criminal code would revert back to its 1969 edition, while the Iraqi civil code would revert back to its 1972 edition. Bremer did not address the Iraqi religious courts of personal status. While the criminal code does not explicitly deal with homosexuality or cross-dressing, it does contain provisions that could be used to punish such practices.
Some news reports about the legal status of homosexuality in Iraq had asserted that Paragraph 111 legalizes the practice of honor killings. However, the practice was expressly prohibited in the Iraqi criminal code prior to the 1990s.
Paragraph 215 - Any person who produces, imports, exports or obtains a picture, written material or sign with intent to trade, distribute, display or exhibit such material, which, by its nature, endangers the public security or brings the country into disrepute unless he was acting in good faith is punishable by detention plus a fine not exceeding 300 Dinars or by one of those penalties
Chapter 7 Section 7 Paragraph 368 - Any person who willfully commits an act which spreads a dangerous disease that endangers the lives of others is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 3 years. The punishment is 1 year if it is ruled to be accidental.
Chapter 8 Section 4 Paragraph 376 - Any person who obtains a marriage certificate knowing it to be invalid for any reason in secular or canonical law and any person who issues such certificate knowing the marriage to be invalid is punishable by a term of imprisonment not exceeding 7 years or by detention.
Chapter 8 Section 3 Paragraph 401 - Any person who commits an immodest act in public is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 6 months plus a fine not exceeding 50 dinars or by one of those penalties.
Chapter 8 Section 3 Paragraph 402 - (a) Any person who makes indecent advances to another man or woman shall be punished by a period of detention not exceeding 3 months plus a fine not exceeding 30 dinars. The penalty will be a period of detention not exceeding 6 months plus a fine not exceeding 100 dinars if the offender, having been previously convicted for such offense, re offends within a year of the date of such conviction.
Chapter 8 Paragraph 403 - Any person who produces, imports, publishes, possesses, obtains or translates a book, printed or other written material, drawing, picture, film, symbol or other thing that violates the public integrity or decency with intent to exploit or distribute such material is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 2 years plus a fine not exceeding 200 dinars or by one of those penalties. Also applies to those people that advertise such material or media.
Chapter 8 Paragraph 404 - Any person who himself or through some mechanical means sings or broadcasts in a public place obscene or indecent songs or statements is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 1 year or by a fine not exceeding 100 dinars.
Paragraph 434 - Insult is the imputation to another of something dishonorable or disrespectful or the hurting of his feelings even though it does not include an imputation to him of a particular matter. Any person who insults another is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 1 year plus a fine not exceeding 100 dinars.
Paragraph 438 - The following persons are punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 1 year plus a fine not exceeding 100 dinars or by one of those penalties: (1) Any person who publishes in any way a picture, remark or information in respect of the private or family life of another, even though such information is true and such publication causes him offense.
Paragraph 501 - Any person who washes themselves in a city, town or village in an indecent manner or appears in a public place in an indecent state of undress is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 10 days or by a fine not exceeding 5 Dinars.
Chapter 5 Paragraph 502 - Any person who loiters in a public place or observes such a place with indecent intent or for an indecent purpose is punishable by a period of detention not exceeding 10 days or by a fine not exceeding 5 dinars. wikipedia.
Posted by lrjones4 at 12/01/2007 @ 8:06pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/01/2007 @ 5:11pm
I really love lectures on tolerance and peace from a man who thinks Mitt Romney and his religion poses a threat to him as a Christian (or whatever) and is a "paid agent of the Devil"....and calls for the wholesale bombardment of civilians as a means of "victory" over terrorism.
Posted by Mask at 12/01/2007 @ 9:25pm
Posted by MASK 12/01/2007 @ 9:25pm
thanks...i feel better about hurting his feelings now.
why am i such a nice, mild mannered, softy? gets me every time...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/01/2007 @ 10:12pm
GEEZ, ALL THOSE RIGHTY WEB SITES...
That WE Can troll. Who knew? I thought they all disallowed comments because they couldn't even stand their OWN trolls!...
Posted by w_m_bear at 12/01/2007 @ 10:33pm
I recall not too long ago when the rethugs were up in arms because somebody had the audacity to call Genreal Suck Up To Bush Patraeus General Betray-Us.
The rethugs are like a stupid bully on the playground. They like to push and shove people around, but when they get even a little shove back, they go off whining and sulking because someone picked on them. Karl "the antichrist" Rove tactics all the way.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 12/01/2007 @ 11:38pm
The rethugs are like a stupid bully on the playground. They like to push and shove people around, but when they get even a little shove back, they go off whining and sulking because someone picked on them. Karl "the antichrist" Rove tactics all the way.
Posted by WOLFGANG1 12/01/2007 @ 11:38pm
AND ***WHAT*** THEY WHINE...
Is that liberals and progressives aren't "playing fair." So, of course, what do WE nice-nellies always do when we hear this? Bend over backwards to play fair, of course. Meanwhile, the bullies are at it again....
Just to give you a couple of examples. If I were a Democratic politician, I wouldn't respond to Karl Rove's recent absurd assertions (and reassertions) that Congress somehow "rushed" Bush into invading Iraq. Instead of wimpy-ass responses like, "I'm not sure Mr. Rove remembers things entirely correctly," etc., know what I'd do?' The mistake the Dems ALWAYS make is to try to respond to Roves lies with RATIONAL ARGUMENTS. (It's the old aforementioned "We liberals must always play fair, now" syndrome.) So if I were that putative Democratic politician, here's what I'd do. EVERY time I referred to Karl Rove, it would be with the sobriquet "Turd Blossom." And whenever any mainstream media types pretended to get all tweaked-out by this, I'd just say, "Hey, 'Turd Blossom' is GEORGE BUSH'S KNICKNAME for Karl Rove."
Similarly, Dems are giving Rudy Giuliani a TOTAL PASS on his cross-dressing -- again, the old "we've gotta play fair" syndrome, it's a non-issue, etc., etc., etc. Well, I can guarantee you that if Giuliani were a DEMOCRATIC politician he would NOT be getting a pass on his cross-dressing either by the MSM or by the Republicans. So again, if I were said putative Democratic politician, I would always, always, always (as I do now in every post I make), refer to Giuliani as "Drag Queen Rudia." And if anybody wants to get tweaked-out by that, let 'em, I say!!!
Posted by w_m_bear at 12/02/2007 @ 12:07am
Posted by W_M_BEAR 12/02/2007 @ 12:07am
Bear,
You bring up good points. Hey, when both Gore and Kerry ran against W, they didn't bring up the fact that W had a DUI on his record. How come there wasn't some group of mothers against drunk drivers funding commercials against Bush saying that he was a potential killer on the road. You know damn well that if it had been a democratic counter part running with a DUI on his record, the rethugs would have had adds splashed all over the air waves, newspapers, schools and wherever else they could put the word out.
And then there was Bush's lack of military service during the Vietnam war. They attacked Kerry's record, but Kerry actually served in combat where W sat it out in the reserve units and didn't even follow through with that obligation. THen again, Bush probably is a hero in the rethug ranks because most of them completely sat the Vietnam war out. Both Gore and Kerry have military records that prove they served, while we have the chicken hawks W, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeldt, Rice, Bremmer etc.
Then there's the fact that pretty much every business W ran failed. Cheney was and is affiliated with Halliburton, but that was rarely brought up if ever. No conflict of interest was brought up about both of their ties to the defense industry as well as the oil industry.
But, try to convince the right wing war mongers of this.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 12/02/2007 @ 12:23am
but i've always liked and respected you, rio, jomama, happy, and a few other political retards...
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/01/2007 @ 6:00pm
amen,
even ponti!
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 12:27am
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/01/2007 @ 6:00pm
thx IB
Posted by lvliberty1 at 12/02/2007 @ 12:30am
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/02/2007 @ 12:27am
oh yeah - that con-tard too...
bless all the con-tards, each and every one of them!
watching a rerun of snl...on the news segment..
"today is veterans day...which affects nobody in the white house!"
lol - funny, biting, true, and sickening...
freakin con-tards!
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/02/2007 @ 12:33am
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/02/2007 @ 12:30am
no prob. i know you're a good person despite your political tardation. dammit...and afte that last post...lol...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/02/2007 @ 12:36am
I really love lectures on tolerance and peace from a man who thinks Mitt Romney and his religion poses a threat to him as a Christian (or whatever) and is a "paid agent of the Devil"....and calls for the wholesale bombardment of civilians as a means of "victory" over terrorism.
Posted by MASK 12/01/2007 @ 9:25pm
You really enjoy lying don't you Mask?
1. I didn't say Romney poses a threat to me and Christianity other than they have openly and privately stated their hatred of Christianity while telling the world they are Christian. That is dishonesty wouldn't even you agree with that.
I also note that you continue to refuse to answer why I would vote for someone who is a total hypocrite towards me and other Christians.
You also through either a lack of reading comprehension skills or willful disregard, have twisted 180 the part about being paid by the devil..it is Mormons who claim that I and other pastors and priests are paid by the devil, not the other way around.
2. Secondly, even though I have repeatedly demonstrated your lying about my war statements, you persist in lying. I have never stated anything about wholesale bombardment of civilians. You try and make that my construct about the nuke issue and Dresden; however I have pointed out the lies of your statements.
You can continue to persist in your lies. It merely demonstrates your acknowledged weakness in debate. When you can't win against your opponent, lie.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 12/02/2007 @ 12:37am
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/02/2007 @ 12:27am
oh yeah - that con-tard too...
bless all the con-tards, each and every one of them!
watching a rerun of snl...on the news segment..
"today is veterans day...which affects nobody in the white house!"
lol - funny, biting, true, and sickening...
freakin con-tards!
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/02/2007 @ 12:33am
You guys are too kind!!
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 12/02/2007 @ 12:43am
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/02/2007 @ 12:37am
i understand how you would want to vote for someone who holds the same values as your own.
just be careful.
many people will espouse a deeper faith in order to gain the power that they truly desire.
do not be used by the corrupt who claim to spread the word of love,
yet let the fiery wrath of unbridled greed command their every judgement.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 12:46am
Posted by WOLFGANG1 12/02/2007 @ 12:43am
hey,
we're all brothers and sisters.
and we all gotta share this big ol' rock.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 12:47am
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/02/2007 @ 12:46am
FZ,
it's not that FZ. I won't vote for a hypocrite who says he respects me and my vote while swearing an oath of hatred against me in private. I don't vote for obvious hypocrisy like that.
Posted by lvliberty1 at 12/02/2007 @ 12:53am
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/02/2007 @ 12:53am
good for you.
vote for someone who'll stop this madness.
muslims and christians and jews are only about 1/3 of the planet, yet we just wanna steal all the limelight.
i wonder what they think of all this stupidity in beijing and delhi.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 12:57am
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/02/2007 @ 12:53am | ignore this person
i just think mormonism is an obvious fraud religion and have a hard time voting for someone who thinks jesus came to the americas as per that proven forgery, the book of mormon. hate to say it, as i've known some fine mormons, but...um...
though i guess he also is supposed to believe the universe was created 6000 years ago and giants walked the earth...
but then i'm a heathen demoncrat, so...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/02/2007 @ 12:59am
Posted by WOLFGANG1 12/02/2007 @ 12:43am | ignore this person
sado-compassion...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/02/2007 @ 01:01am
sado-compassion...
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/02/2007 @ 01:01am
¿maso-nicechism?
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 01:06am
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/02/2007 @ 01:06am | ignore
pretty ugly...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/02/2007 @ 01:08am
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/02/2007 @ 01:08am
ain't no other way.
an eye for an eye makes for an awful mess................
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 01:12am
an eye for an eye makes for an awful mess................
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/02/2007 @ 01:12am
Not as messy eyes for eyes. Then nobody can see to poke the next guy's eyes out.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 12/02/2007 @ 01:22am
Not as messy eyes for eyes. Then nobody can see to poke the next guy's eyes out.
Posted by WOLFGANG1 12/02/2007 @ 01:22am |
pick two...
block!
woo woo woo woo woo...nyak nyak nyak!
doink!
ohhhh!
moe kicked ass...always got 'em in the end...
nite dire stooges...lol...
Posted by ibbleblibble at 12/02/2007 @ 01:32am
Posted by WOLFGANG1 12/02/2007 @ 01:22am
you know,
i just heard about a 43 year old dude who had such a massive stroke,
that the only movement he had left was blinking his left eye.
his physiotherapist devised a system where he would blink when she said the letter the dude wanted,
and after many, many hours the dude was able to write a book,
Le scaphandre et le papillon [en.wikipedia.org]
as brian said,
"Always look on the bright side of life........................"
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 01:32am
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/02/2007 @ 01:32am
peace be upon thee.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 01:33am
"Always look on the bright side of life........................"
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/02/2007 @ 01:32am
"Alway look on the bright side of death, da do, da do, da do, da do,
....just before you draw your terminal breath..da do, da do, da do, da do"
"Lifes a piece of shit, when you look at it, life's a laugh and that's the joke it's true..... you'll see it's all a show, people laughing as you go, just remember that the last laugh is on you...."
How does one go about writing in the whistling part? Monty Python Rules.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 12/02/2007 @ 01:41am
Posted by IBBLEBLIBBLE 12/02/2007 @ 01:32am
I haven't thought of those guys in a long time. Thanks for the laugh man. That was great!!
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 12/02/2007 @ 01:42am
How does one go about writing in the whistling part?
Posted by WOLFGANG1 12/02/2007 @ 01:41am
with pursed fingers.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 01:42am
Posted by LRJONES4 12/01/2007 @ 8:06pm
I've got enough on my hands in the US fighting the Neanderthals in their attempts to sub-humanize my gay friends. Unlike you, I feel no need to send others traipsing around the world in a vain attempt to make Them like Us. Somehow,I think pulling the Islamists out of the Dark Ages is going to be a harder struggle than pulling the Evangelicals out. If the fundies here ever get it, then maybe I will turn my attention to the Muslim clerics. But, by then I will be an even older man.
But, I see Australia has a thriving economy, so I would expect you to still want to volunteer to take up the slack of the exiting Aussies in Iraq. But you won't fight in the struggle you say is the defining one of our times, will you LeeRoy?
Posted by crabwalk at 12/02/2007 @ 09:17am
Posted by LRJONES4 12/01/2007 @ 8:06pm
I am also willing to bet you could get The RIO's and Luvvys of this country to agree to those Ba-athist laws.
For instance, it was not long ago that the cons banned interracial marriage, and many around here would love to see that again. (LUVVY is NOT one of those people, SLIVER is) Most states have banned the equal joining of two same sex adults. The Christian Right caused the FCC to fine TV stations for "lewd behavior" because Janet Jackson showed most of her breast.
President of the Christian Coalition of America Roberta Combs said, "Although legislation introduced in Congress to increase penalties for repeated offenses to $7.5 million per offense is a good start, Christian Coalition agrees with Mr. Michael Copps, one of the FCC Democrat commissioners that station licenses for repeated obscenity offenses should be revoked. The FCC itself has to accept most of the blame for last night's immoral broadcast on CBS. The FCC, with a 3 Republican member majority, has refused to punish the television networks for allowing the use of the F-word and for other outrageous behavior during the past year. And these so-called entertainers have taken advantage of the lack of oversight by the FCC."
Mrs. Combs said, "Congress needs to move aggressively to pass legislation which will finally and severely sanction those individuals and broadcasting companies and stations which violate decency standards. The American people demand it."
There is a reason I call the american Taliban, they have much in common with their perceived enemies. It was only a few short years ago , 2003, that anti-sodomy laws were tossed out in this country. 12 states had laws on the books banning sodomy and or oral sex. How "progressive" is that?
"The court allowed the right to privacy to trump the compelling interest the state has in promoting the family interests of right and wrong," Falwell said. "It just says that privacy permits anything between consenting adults. It would actually makes bestiality legal if it's taken to the limits or privacy."
Jay Squires, a lawyer and the publisher of the Web site gayrichmond.com, said the ruling removed a huge roadblock to gays obtaining equal rights.
"Until today, I could have been arrested for a felony and sentenced to up to five years in prison for an act of intimacy with my partner of 15 years," Squires said.
Lets start a new game, we will call it Texas or Iraq. Maybe compare laws of the two places and see who is the most backward. I don;t think you will be pleasantly surprised.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/02/2007 @ 09:45am
http://www.sodomylaws.org/sensibilities/texas.htm
damn activist judges.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/02/2007 @ 09:54am
Texas or Iraq?
In 1943, it passed a law42 that followed the laws of Ohio (q.v.), Iowa (q.v.), and Nebraska (q.v.) in outlawing fellatio, but not cunnilingus,
Also in 1943, ? enacted a broad law against vagrancy. Among the new vagrants under the law were anyone engaging in "lewdness," with no specification as to the "lewdness" occurring in public, and anyone who resided in or remained in any place "for the purpose of...lewdness[.]"
FYI, in NO WAY do I condone sex in any form with minors by adults. I am no ACOOK. Many of the cases sited here are about minors engaged in fellatio or anal sex which should remain illegal until the age of consent is reached. In the south, that age of consent was as young as 14, as pointed out by our own ACOOK, and who are we to judge the actions of those by-gone days by our standards, according to other neo-cons around here.
Posted by crabwalk at 12/02/2007 @ 10:04am
Posted by CRABWALK 12/02/2007 @ 09:45am
you know, 150 years ago "our" women were obliged to dress just like "their" women. [tinyurl.com]
people will change their own societies if they are fed up.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 10:27am
Posted by CRABWALK 12/02/2007 @ 10:04am
this guy's not "old school",
he's old TESTAMENT school [larrykilgore.com]
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 10:56am
Posted by FROSTY ZOOM 12/02/2007 @ 10:56am
Should we invade texas and "liberate" them?
...or just help them tug their heads out of their asses and educate them?
Posted by Eric65 at 12/02/2007 @ 1:37pm
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/02/2007 @ 12:37am
1. So you just think Romney hates Christians, not that he's a threat to them if elected President?
2. No, you haven't "explained it"....what DOES "think Dresden" mean when you said Bush should "take the gloves off" in fighting Islamic terrorism? or do you have some OTHER view of what happened at Dresden?
Posted by Mask at 12/02/2007 @ 1:54pm
2. No, you haven't "explained it"....what DOES "think Dresden" mean when you said Bush should "take the gloves off" in fighting Islamic terrorism? or do you have some OTHER view of what happened at Dresden?
Posted by MASK 12/02/2007 @ 1:54pm
Sorry Mask
I actually did post a response yesterday but I cannot remember which thread (too many active threads for an old guy like me). However I did save the response in a Word file; here it is for you.
So...let's ask LL when he comes on. "Do you REALLY mean that you would apply a 'Dresden-like' approach to the War on Terror...or are you simply saying that to elicit a reaction, and your actual approach (if you had the power) would be more tempered?"
And see what he says.
Posted by MASK 11/30/2007 @ 11:13am
Mask,
It seems you have this sanitized view on war. You haven't indicated previously that you are a pacifist so I assume you believe some wars to be necessary.
My Dresden statement is completely consistent with a desire to actually limit unnecessary deaths. It stems from the same views used by the Dresden planners. While all loss of human life is regrettable, tragic, and not to be taken lightly, there are times in war when drastic measures are necessary in order to achieve both the greater good and avoid greater losses from your own forces. I think Dresden then and similar tactics if used now are within that construct. This link below offers a fairly objective analysis of the Dresden bombings.
"I… assume that the view under consideration is something like this: no doubt in the past we were justified in attacking German cities. But to do so was always repugnant and now that the Germans are beaten anyway we can properly abstain from proceeding with these attacks. This is a doctrine to which I could never subscribe. Attacks on cities like any other act of war are intolerable unless they are strategically justified. But they are strategically justified in so far as they tend to shorten the war and preserve the lives of Allied soldiers. To my mind we have absolutely no right to give them up unless it is certain that they will not have this effect. I do not personally regard the whole of the remaining cities of Germany as worth the bones of one British Grenadier. The feeling, such as there is, over Dresden, could be easily explained by any psychiatrist. It is connected with German bands and Dresden shepherdesses. Actually Dresden was a mass of munitions works, an intact government centre, and a key transportation point to the East. It is now none of these things."[54] Arthur "Bomber" Harris, Commander-in-Chief of RAF Bomber Command
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
Posted by lvliberty1 at 12/02/2007 @ 2:34pm
...or just help them tug their heads out of their asses and educate them?
Posted by ERIC65 12/02/2007 @ 1:37pm
Good luck trying. It would be easier to pull an oak tree out by it's roots bare handed.
Posted by Wolfgang1 at 12/02/2007 @ 2:50pm
Should we invade texas and "liberate" them?
Posted by ERIC65 12/02/2007 @ 1:37pm
don't worry.
the mexicans are already on it.
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 5:08pm
a fairly objective analysis of the Dresden bombings.
Posted by LVLIBERTY1 12/02/2007 @ 2:34pm
yep. must be objective coming from Arthur "Bomber" Harris, Commander-in-Chief of RAF Bomber Command
Posted by frosty zoom at 12/02/2007 @ 5:18pm
Uh, let's see...... oh, how about, BLOW IT OUT YER ASS?
Posted by DR DECIBELS 11/30/2007 @ 6:55pm | ignore this person
anytime buddy. the clintonites don't have nuthin' on nobody. their act grew tired and stale a long time ago. their time is past; they're going to have to sit back and ride the wave like the rest of us.
as for all their syncophants around them, no doubt they'll end up floating somewhere.
Posted by Taboo at 12/02/2007 @ 10:19pm