Web Letters: Waiting for the Barbarians

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By Richard Kim

This article appeared in the November 3, 2008 edition of The Nation.

October 16, 2008

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  • With the implementation of the Bush Doctrine, the United States is fast becoming the still more hostile Americans, whose arrogance the world cannot hope to avoid, not even by submission and servitude. We would plunder the world, stripping naked the land in our hunger, we loot even the oceans: we are driven by greed, if the enemy be rich; by ambition, if poor; neither the wealth of the east nor the west can satisfy us: we are the only people who behold wealth and indigence with equal passion to dominate. We ravage, we slaughter, we seize by false pretenses, and all of this we hail as the spread of freedom and democracy. And when in our wake nothing remains but a desert, we shall call that peace. Apologies to Cornelius Tacitus, De Vita Gnæi Julii Agricolæ cap. xxx (98 CE) in the Loeb Library ed., vol. 35, p. 80 (S.H. transl.).

    Our relentless media cajole and agitate us to act against our best interests. Our career politicians are bought and sold like so many commodities. Our military complex is fed our wealth in an insatiable hunger for power. And so we forsake our infrastructure, our resources, our health and even our children.

    Ask yourself: Why are we the only nation to garrison troops all over the world? Why do we ignore our domestic problems in the name of security and military superiority? Why has true patriotism been threatened by the emergence of blind nationalism? Why does theocracy and despotism threaten our constitution?

    Without immediate change to a new path toward energy independence, a new diplomacy to foster mutual respect with misunderstood ethnicities and religions, a retreat from imperialistic military positioning and threats of war, and a renewed investment in our aging and failing domestic imperatives, the United States of America, my country that I love, I fear, has begun its waning years.

    The undivided Roman Empire lasted 503 years (27 BCE to 395 CE). But the Roman Emperor Severus’ death marked the end of Pax Romana in 235 CE and the beginning of the end of the western empire. The last 240 years were marked by great civil upheaval, political instability and frequent invasion. The rise and fall of the republic lasted roughly the same number of years. Have we already concluded the days of the Pax Americana now? Can we change course? Do you want to?

    Timothy Barrett

    Louisville, KY

    10/23/2008 @ 3:59pm


  • I'd like to poke a hole in the over-inflated balloon of the Republican elder statesmen (like Ken Adelman, Christopher Buckley, even the sainted Colin Powell) who are crossing party lines to endorse Senator Obama. I am profoundly pro-Obama--at least as much as I've been anti-W--but I've held my position for eight years. I'm not more perceptive than these men. What I am, though, is moral--too moral to have averted my gaze from a clearly unqualified and anti-intellectual candidate with murky wins in '00 and '04, too moral to ignore a crafty running mate who, after "vetting" potential VP choices determines that he himself is the only possibility and then goes on to falsify evidence that would lead us into war and his cronies into fat, no-bid contracts, and too moral to ignore eight years--eight years!--of disastrous national and international policy that has brought this nation to its knees and toppled its supremacy. By propping up an anti-intellectual, theocratic, power-mad and ethically challenged leader, these elder statesmen have been complicit in our current myriad crises and have personally paved the way for the nomination of John McCain and his "barracuda" Sarah Palin--as anti-intellectual, theocratic, power-mad and ethically challenged as W, only with "the gloves off."

    It's the nomination of Ms. Palin that seems to have turned away the Republican pundits more than anything else. But without their support of and excuses for the current Bush administration, she would never have been considered viable. Seeing the extent of the damage they have helped to cause, they reel away from their own handiwork with as much revulsion as Viktor Frankenstein. But like Dr. Frankenstein, they are solely responsible for their creation; the time for pitchforks and torches was after the Supreme Court decided the 2000 election. I hope their endorsements of Senator Obama are effective and swing votes to him; but I can't forgive the intellectuals of the GOP for legitimizing Mr. Bush and--unwillingly--Ms. Palin. Far beyond a single election, they may have helped destroy the United States of America.

    Elizabeth Schwartz

    San Diego, CA

    10/23/2008 @ 11:28am


  • 10, 9, 8... countdown to an election! Elections often present difficult choices, as one should expect. A democratic form of government is not designed to be "neat" or easy; just look at our history and the current affairs of many democratic governments around the world.

    Senator McCain has served our nation with great honor, and while he is a mature man, his "maverick" credentials are tarnished with many years of service in the US Congress, where he cast many more votes were cast for the status quo, rather than to disrupt or slow the relentless march toward a more powerful federal government. This, with his lack of clear focus on the need to limit the extent of governmental intervention into the economy in times of "crisis," suggests he is not a real conservative. Senator McCain is also very limited as a student and advocate of the US Constitution, as evidenced by his campaign finance "reforms" that were more effective as an assault on free speech than political corruption. Expanding governmental authority to restrict speech, particularly political speech, never leads to more freedom or better government.

    But Senator Obama is the real threat to our economic and democratic systems. Yes, all politicians promise things that they can't deliver, but his preacher of over twenty years is a racist and his friends are criminals or Marxists (not a code name for "black") or, in at least one case, both. Sure, he funds leftist organizations that openly seek to undermine the electoral process in this country. But what we must focus on is that Senator Obama will move strongly toward nationalized healthcare. He might even want to start nationalizing part of our energy production as early 2011. He says he will also have government help pay for higher education for "middle-class" families and infuse the federal government even more deeply into our educational system, and so on... or so he says.

    As the "Bush" tax cuts, which Obama opposes, are allowed to expire, and capital gains taxes, corporate taxes, estate taxes are increased, combined with a significant increase in income taxes for individuals with an income over $200,000, then every individual that actually works for a living and every business that can make a profit will pay higher taxes and/or prices for products. It is important to realize that the Obama "promise" of tax cuts" for 95 percent of all Americans is misleading at best!

    Taxes will increase, the economic slowdown will likely deepen or at least the economy will "stall" for an extended period of time, with more "intervention" by an Obama government the likely consequence. Senator Obama knows no other solution than "government." He appears to know no other way to get votes than to promise more government intervention and more "help" from government. Yes, more and more money from the federal government, or rather your pocket, to "spread the wealth," to try to temporarily prop up the economy, to expand governmental involvement and control in healthcare, education, energy, etc., and, of course, to support "grassroots groups" like ACORN that will become organizational bases for his political machine of the future.

    When we have ceded to "our" government the responsibility to meet our needs for financial security, to provide our health care, to pay for college, to provide energy... and that government then fails to meet those needs, as government (i.e., Congress) surely will, where will we then look to for solutions? A dictatorship will eventually follow, at first in the form of some central committee of "statespersons" and "experts." Can you say "First Secretary Pelosi," and "Premier Obama."

    Admittedly, this may not be likely to happen in the next four or eight years. But did you know back in August that we were going to have a serious economic "crisis" in September? Could you have believed that the federal government would become an equity holder in our banking industry in October, and now will soon become a holder of individual home mortgages, all with not much more than a whimper from even our most conservative elected officials?

    What is likely to happen in the next four to eight years or, as Senator Biden would contend, in the next six months, will be serious international challenges. Our next president will face complex foreign challenges. Paradoxically, the president with the weaker résumé may be the one more likely to be put in a position of deciding whether or not to use force, while the more "hawkish" candidate might not be challenged in the same way. By Senator Obama having taken the “no” to the surge "cut-and-run" position on Iraq, the question on the international nuclear stage in an Obama Presidency will be... where will he draw the line! Will the Senator (of four years), now president Obama, be forced to draw the line in an imprudent place, to prove his "strength" or in the alternative to confirm his leftist "credentials" of capitulation? These are serious and troubling questions.

    The issue is not which candidate is perfect, or has all the right answers. The point of real concern is in what direction are we going with regard to expanding or limiting the authority of the central government, and what risks we are willing to take in the international arena?

    Senator McCain is no "rock star" or even "Joe the Plumber," but I do have respect for his service to our county, and his experience and perseverance.

    The "change" Obama promises, is not the change I want for my loved ones, my country or this world. I would rather place my faith in God and face the uncertainties of free enterprise and the inherent conflicts associated with free thought and speech, than to timidly share my "approved" Yugo for "the greater good" as defined by my "comrades." I don't want to send my children, or anyone’s child, to die in any war, so it is hard to vote for a Senator Obama when missteps by a president might lead to serious foreign conflicts.

    So, if you honestly believe Senator Obama can deliver "universal" healthcare and provide higher education "to all," "save" the environment, and through "face to face" "no pre-condition" discussions with international terrorists achieve world peace--all while strengthening and not eroding our economic and democratic institutions--then please vote for Senator Obama. Otherwise, vote "no" on the Obama referendum!

    john Sanderford

    Kearney, MO

    10/22/2008 @ 3:43pm


  • Somehow you forgot the past eight years and all the liberals who wanted to kill Bush or have Cheney die. Google either phrase and you will come up with enough liberal hatred to expose your bias.

    Scott R. Nellis

    Belvidere, IL

    10/21/2008 @ 12:42am


  • Amazing that this article mentions the infamous "kill him" incident without mention of the Secret Service agents present who said they heard no one say "kill him."

    The agents must be part of the right wing conspiracy too I guess.

    I anxiously await the article concerning a male Obama supporter beating a female McCain sign holder over the head with a stick. That actually happenned. But why bother reporting the truth if it doesn't fit the agenda?

    Tim Smith

    Des Moines, IO

    10/20/2008 @ 10:07pm


  • I am a registered Democrat who believes this article is one-sided. First, two points. To the dismay of journalists, the Secret Service cannot corroborate that "kill him" was yelled at a rally. Second, your intro mixes crazy smears found on blogs (e.g., Madrassa attendance) with real concerns (e.g., Ayers), in an attempt to discredit the legitimate concerns.

    I believe this article is one-sided because journalists have continually talked about the hate from the right, while convienently ignoring the hate from the left. The Democratic party is not the same, and it is not a party I want to be associated with anymore. It appears to me that in the desire to win the White House, the DNC and Obama decided to copy the "winning" strategy of Rove. Where are the articles on the MO "truth squads?" Why is the media vetting Joe the Plumber? Why is no one asking about the rampant mysogyny from the Democrats, leading up to Obama supporters on his website wearing "Palin is a c**t T shirts?

    It appears to me that in the desire to elect a Democrat, people are willing to abandon all standards. That is a scary place to be.

    Lynn Ford

    Austin, TX

    10/20/2008 @ 4:49pm


  • This article masterfully explains the context within which the GOP conducts its presidential campaigns (The destroy-your-opponent method did not start with Karl Rove).

    So why does the GOP always take the low road? The "True Believer" convictions of the far right have always applied a religious fervor to their political ideas. It's simple, really: once we have convinced ourselves what we are doing is right for America (and thus "God's work"), we humans are then capabale of doing anything. Add the "mob mentality" component to this, and you have the perfect conditions for a uniquely human emotion: hate.

    Roger Canteri

    Arlington, VA

    10/20/2008 @ 2:53pm


  • Mr. Kim has written an excellent piece. Right now, the outrageous lies and filthy mud being dumped on Obama and his supporters by the McCain campaign are noticably deflating the hard- and honestly won lead Obama enjoyed as recently as last week. Therefore, perhaps the question we should ask ourselves is : What if Obama loses?

    Will Obama's loss embolden the McCain /Palin supporters who are not bright enough to understand that they've been "hoodwinked" (as Obama often says)? There's a real chance that the hateful, racist elements making up a significant percentage of McCain's supporters will indeed see an Obama defeat as vindication and license to become even more boorish and threatening to the rest of us. It's not an impossible scenario, I'm very sorry to say.

    Since a deeply disturbed Richard Nixon unleashed Lee Atwater and other know-no-bounds attack dogs in the fall of 1968. Rhe Republican Party's willingness to use darkness, hatred and fear has attracted more and more darkness, hatred and fear to that once "grand old party." It is now an empty, sorry shell of its former self.

    Make no mistake, folks: If Obama loses, this country is in far deeper trouble than it seems, even now, after the Republicans' forty years worth of stunning, breathtaking corruption, lies and dirty tactics has brought this once-proud country to its knees.

    Steven Kyriak

    New York, NY

    10/20/2008 @ 12:42pm


  • Mr. Kim's myopic political views cloud his objectivity.

    First, I do not think that most Republicans "hate" Barack Obama. You should not base the sentiment of an entire party on a few crazy people yelling a few crazy things at a couple of rallies. Almost all Republicans would agree that "kill him" and "terrorist" are inappropriate comments.

    In addition, when issues of Obama's past relationships or acceptance of socialist tenents are raised, it is not because of "hate." These are legitimate issues for many voters. One must wonder whether Obama shares the views of William Ayers and Reverend Wright. The fact that Obama refuses to answer simple questions about these associations makes one wonder. It is also a fact that wealth redistribution is a tenent of Marxist socialism. So, when Joe Biden says paying higher taxes is patriotic and Obama tells Joe the Plumber that it is time to spread the wealth, they are espousing socialist views. This is also a legitimate issue for voters. Raising these issues is not based on hate.

    Think of it this way--if John McCain had launched his political career in the home of David Duke, he would have had a very short political career. Thirty years from now, if a candidate for president was friends with a "rehabilitated" Osama bid Laden people would ask a lot of questions. These comparisons to Obama's relationships are not based on hate, but based on legitimate questions.

    Second, you act as if hate is a one-way street. Sure, there are Republicans who hate Democrats or maybe even hate Obama. But the sheer amount of hate directed at President Bush from Democrats is like nothing I have ever seen in my life. They hate everything he says and everything he does. They have a sort of blind hatred in which they hate everything without thought. Many compare him to Adolf Hitler, among other things. He has been called the Anti-Christ. He has been depicted in pictures with devil horns. Many have called for his death.

    The biggest difference is that most Republicans would decry any hateful thing said about Obama. But I have never seen a Democrat second guess all of the hate directed at Bush. So whose party employes the barbarians?

    Marcus Peterson

    Glendale, CA

    10/20/2008 @ 12:04pm


  • Here come the Thought Police. About all that you left out of this article was to call conservatives Nazis and to invoke the name Hitler to support this nonsense.

    Talk about hate speech, you win hands down on that one. Let's review. You said the Republicans "stoke murderous madness," with their "Frankenstein monster freed from his creator." You go on to refer to the right wing's "paranoid imagination" and to typify some of its adherents as "trolls" and others as merely "soft propagandists" who wield "poisoned swords."

    I'd say that was pretty hateful from a guy calling the other side hateful.

    What really troubles me about your thought process is that you think spewing hate is OK if it is in the name of "civil rights and liberties, diplomacy and cosmopolitanism." I remember Barry Goldwater was destroyed over a similar thought process--"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." I guess hate speech in the defense of civil rights and liberties, diplomacy and cosmopolitanism is no vice either, huh?!

    Roger Roney

    Dallas, TX

    10/20/2008 @ 11:49am


  • I have read a number of columns recently that make essentially the same points that Kim does. However, one passage in his comment was particularly striking: "What holds this beast together is not the fear and loathing of any particular despised identity so much as the idea that America is under siege, disordered, on the cusp of imminent and total collapse, threatened by terrorists abroad and undermined by enemies at home. "

    If you substitute "Germany" for "America" and imagine that it is 1933, the same question that occurred to me will begin haunting you. The McCain campaign has recruited, and lost control of, the brown shirts. But from where will the black shirts come and who will be leading them?

    Walter F. Baber

    San Diego, CA

    10/20/2008 @ 10:45am


  • Forget the crap campaigning, Mr. McCain, and focus on such things as Obama's economic résumé--with such great achievements as these:

    Total taxes, per capita, paid by Illinois residents increased 26 percent during Obama’s stay in the State Senate (source: The Tax Foundation, Washington, DC). And how did he help the citizens of Illinois pay for these taxes? Obama’s Illinois Senate bill, #1324, 90th Assembly, raised the maximum allowed grant to aid property tax payers to $70. Thanks for the help, B.O.

    The number of uninsured Illinois citizens increased 3 percent during Obama’s time in the Illinois State Senate (source: US Census Bureau, Table HI-6, 2005). A year after Obama left the Illinois State Senate, 12 percent of all Illinois citizens were living in poverty (source: US Census Bureau, American Community Survey, 2005). Between 2000 and 2003 the rate of unemployment in Illinois increased 3 percent (source: US Census Bureau, American Community Survey, 2003).

    Between 2000 and 2003 the percentage of Illinois households making over $75,000 dropped, while the percentage of those making less than $10,000 increased (US Census Bureau, State and County Quick Facts, Illinois, 2005). While the population of the United States increased between 2000 and 2005, the population of Illinois decreased by almost 3 percent for the same period (source: US Census Bureau, State and County Quick Facts, Illinois, 2005). While the US saw an increase in non-farm employment during the period 2000-2004, the same statistic for Illinois showed a decrease of over 5 percent (source: US Census Bureau, State and County Quick Facts, Illinois, 2005).

    There is so much to challenge Obama's message of "hope" and "change," why bother with the Bill O'Reilly-like Inside Edition crap?

    Walt Kienia

    Nashua, NH

    10/20/2008 @ 09:28am


  • I read The Nation faithfully when I was in high school. This hit piece reminds me that I outgrew it.

    Never mind that none of the "kill him" statements never occurred. Never mind that the Duke Lacrosse team never raped anyone. It is all about "meta-narratives." Never mind that Joe the Plumber's background is better known than Obama's. We know that the Great Spirit is on your side.

    It is sad that a magazine that once actually discussed issues has deteriorated into a megaphone that can only blare that anyone who disagrees with liberal rubrics is a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, xenophobic hate-monger. History suggests that such morally superior certitude eventually has widespread lethal consequences. Your Stalinist ethos is apparent to most any sentient being with even a passing knowledge of latter-day utopians.

    I can only wonder who will play the new Torquemada, and from which reeducation camp we will hear the refrain, "We had to destroy the conservative in order to save him."

    Civil Westman

    Pittsburgh, PA

    10/20/2008 @ 09:27am


  • Well, I see you are following the Obama routine. Now how about a compensating article describing how the Obama campaign is playing the race card over and over, with governors and senators speaking loud and clear that Americans are racists unless they vote for Obama. This is what I would call fair reporting. Do you have the guts to tell the truth?

    Gene Guffey

    Gadsden, AL

    10/20/2008 @ 09:07am


  • Um, apparently the "machinery of hate" of the Democratic Party, the one that had a sitting member of Congress (not allegations re some anonymous person at a campaign event) comparing John McCain to the Democratic segregationist George Wallace, the insane rage that has gripped Obama supporters to the point where some will wear "Sarah Palin Is A Cunt" T-shirts (imagine if any McCain supporters wore "Barack Obama Is A Nigger" T-shirts--oh, the outcry there would be from the conscience-stricken left!) and most recently the physical assault of a McCain supporter in NYC by an Obamabot.

    Somehow these missed your attention. Or maybe addressing hate from the left is above your pay grade? But thank you for once again putting liberal hypocrisy and sanctimony on display.

    R.J. Gibson

    Cambridge, MA

    10/20/2008 @ 09:03am


  • I'm really concerned with the political discourse today. How can we come together as a nation when such bile and hate is spewed out by the media? For those in the middle and the right, Obama's campaign has been every been as hateful as McCain's. Obama is the one who continually raises the race card, distorts and lies continually about McCain's record etc. If we can't find ways to talk to one another more civilly, then we will fall more and more into our more non-civil reactions to the other side and feel comfortable with the response. I believe that many Democrats support the illegal actions of ACORN and other groups. I believe that because their response to the accusations is to accuse Republicans of worse. Wrong-doing should be stopped, whoever is doing it.

    William Hamilton

    Okemos, MI

    10/20/2008 @ 09:00am


  • It feels more like we're waiting to get the barbarians out of the White House.

    Sophie Annan Jensen

    Lucerne, CA

    10/18/2008 @ 6:53pm


  • I feel the mood of this article is angry, and rather barbaric. I prefer to see substance.

    Susan Theorin

    Farmington, MN

    10/18/2008 @ 11:02am


  • Michele Bachmann is really off her rocker. She really is a strange piece of work, she is a nut case.

    JAMES PINETTE

    Caribou, ME

    10/17/2008 @ 7:26pm


  • I work with a party-line Republican. Not long after the Palin pick, mimicking her voice the best I could, started riffing on how "the old guy just wasn't doing enough about earmarks, despite what he said. So, Todd and I had to do something about it. Todd held him down, and then (raising my hands over my head as I spoke) I took him out with my bare hands."

    My colleague shouted, "Yes, Yes, Yes!"

    David Smith

    Fort Lauderdale, FL

    10/17/2008 @ 3:05pm


  • Call me crazy, but I think it is playing with fire to even hint at assassination. Saying to Ann Coulter that "if she genuinely believes that liberals are more dangerous than Islamic terrorists, she should follow the courage of her convictions and do so" is an invitation for some wing nut lurking in the sewer to make Ann proud. It only takes one, and "that one" would become a recruiting poster child for the radical evangifundamentalists in this country. Better to celebrate common ground gained with Hitchens and Buckley. Extinction is the only thing that works with bottom feeders like Coulter.

    Linda Poniktera

    San Diego, CA

    10/17/2008 @ 12:12pm


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